http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/-t1.htm Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:26:39 GMT 10 http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/43116/2372981820044786621S600x600Q85.jpg http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/-t1.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/bad-news-continue-pina-has-pmv-t915.htm pigeonwriter The horror continues but in the meanwhile I have no time any more to be in shock. While Willy is improving slowly, eating again and drinking I am confronted with a new horror: Pina has PMV. It started on Tuesday evening. She came home, astonishingly quite clumsy when she tried to land on one of her favourite places on the closet. Later on she seemed to be nervous and started to look at the ceiling a couple of times. At that point I was not very worried yet but I found it strange. Also ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:18:58 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/bad-news-continue-pina-has-pmv-t915.htm#9591 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/bad-news-continue-pina-has-pmv-t915.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/question-about-amoxicillin-t913.htm joyful_pigeon plamenh wrote:Escherichia coli – E-coli Treatment: Antibiotics are indicated with Baytril, Amoxicillin or Sulfas being commonly recommended. One needs to consider what is or might be the primary disease. Note: Amoxicillin is my first choice of antibiotics when "shooting from the hip". It is gentle on the pigeon and is the least expensive of the good antibiotics. Use 3 Grams per gallon for about 7 days. Hi plamenh & everyone! Thanks for all the really helpful ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:58:17 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/question-about-amoxicillin-t913.htm#9553 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/question-about-amoxicillin-t913.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/severe-string-foot-injury-caution-pictures-t851.htm Jenaka I picked up a bird yesterday from the avian vet who treats my birds. A young hen was rescued in New York City with severe string feet. The vet removed all the visible string. She was not positive that there is no more in the deep cut in the worse foot. She told me to soak the feet daily to see if that would loosen anything left. The poor bird has lost 2 toes on one foot, one toe on the bad foot. She's eating ok. Is there anything else I can do for the feet? She does have some use of the bad foot ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:38:31 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/severe-string-foot-injury-caution-pictures-t851.htm#8297 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/severe-string-foot-injury-caution-pictures-t851.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/do-pmv-birds-require-a-major-change-of-diet-t928.htm Teresa Here's the big question: should foods that (apparently) aggravate cold sores, caused by the herpes virus be withheld for PMV patients? Which translates as 'do all virus infections follow similar patterns?' This discussion was initiated by my daughter, on witnessing first hand the ups and downs of the disease in Sammy, and especially the fact that he always convulsed more after eating. 'I think he shouldn't be having peas', she said. 'They aggravate viral conditions.' So yesterday ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:26:39 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/do-pmv-birds-require-a-major-change-of-diet-t928.htm#9883 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/do-pmv-birds-require-a-major-change-of-diet-t928.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/blind-baby-pigeon-with-salmonella-t785.htm plamenh Four days ago, after feeding my pigeons I was walking in the garden when I saw something white on the grass. It is moulting season and there are feathers everywhere. This looked a little bit more compact then loose feathers so I had a closer look. It was small baby pigeon barely alive. Took it in, and after checking him and I was horrified. Vent was caked with smelly faeces. Crop and throat impacted with canker, smelly. Feathers full of crawling things all colors and shapes. All his body covered ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:18:44 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/blind-baby-pigeon-with-salmonella-t785.htm#7019 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/blind-baby-pigeon-with-salmonella-t785.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/no-rest-for-the-wicked-t506.htm Teresa Two more sick pigeons (from the park) today. One didn't make it, passed away in a matter of minutes. He was a very young adult, just skin and bone, very dehydrated, with a lump in his crop. As it was an extremely hot day, I didn't warm him, just gave him some hydrating solution, but I could tell that wouldn't be enough. As I can't do sub-q, I was about to try the emergency hydration through the vent I read about in PT once, but there was no time. :( It's so strange... I found him 'roosting' ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:52:22 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/no-rest-for-the-wicked-t506.htm#3874 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/no-rest-for-the-wicked-t506.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/horrible-fracture-beware-graphic-what-can-i-do-t752.htm Teresa I've just brought home a pigeon with the most horrible leg fracture -- so much so his knee is twisted 180º. It's a miracle he's alive! The toes on the broken leg are almost black, but not the lower leg itself, so there must be blood circulating still. It doesn't look to me like the fracture happened today, as there is only a little dried blood and the knee is one big ball of infection. For all that he still puts up a fight, eats and drinks. I've given him Metacam ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:53:24 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/horrible-fracture-beware-graphic-what-can-i-do-t752.htm#6534 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/horrible-fracture-beware-graphic-what-can-i-do-t752.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/a-very-valuable-read-t907.htm Matilda
http://www.albertaclassic.net/E.coli/sickness.php]]> Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:48:04 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/a-very-valuable-read-t907.htm#9484 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/a-very-valuable-read-t907.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/lead-poisoning-t118.htm Cynthia This isn't one of my own rescues, but I want to share it anyway! About three weeks ago Les telephoned me to say that one of his garden pigeons was ill and that the vet found out he had a lead pellet in his gizzard. This showed up on the X-ray and the pigeon was showing symptoms of lead poisoning. The vet told Les that the pigeon would die slowly, and offered to euthanase. Les didn't want that so he was advised to get some sodium calciumedetate, which is the antidote to lead poisoning, and ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:13:56 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/lead-poisoning-t118.htm#564 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/lead-poisoning-t118.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/our-willy-is-sick-i-don-t-know-what-to-do-t892.htm pigeonwriter Our Willy, father of Pina and Peppi is sick. Since 3 days now he does not really eat any more - I have seen this from the poop he left on his roosting place. His poops were a bit soft since last week but not too bad. Now he is hardly doing any poop at all and when he does his urine is yellowish, there is only a little piece of poop like a sausage but still with white stuff around. Yesterday I realized that his voice was quite muted - completely different to his normal voice. He has become ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:09:16 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/our-willy-is-sick-i-don-t-know-what-to-do-t892.htm#9102 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/our-willy-is-sick-i-don-t-know-what-to-do-t892.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/what-are-the-most-common-pigeons-illnesses-where-you-are-t891.htm Matilda Since we are truely a collection of interntional I am very interested in finding out the Pigeons illnesses the rest of you experience most with your own Pigeons or with rescues. Here, if someone brings me a sick Pigeon it nearly always is down with the dreaded three...canker, coccidia and worms. Often the bird will have salmonella as well. The worms or worm eggs don't show up in every fecal sample and often repeated sampling is needed to identify the worms...often there is more than one variety. ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:09:24 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/what-are-the-most-common-pigeons-illnesses-where-you-are-t891.htm#9079 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/what-are-the-most-common-pigeons-illnesses-where-you-are-t891.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/pmv-and-something-else-t817.htm plamenh This little guy was waiting for me on the doorway. I was feeding ferals this afternoon and left entrance house door open. When I turned around, he was just sitting there and noticing that I watch him, he entered the house. It is very tame, did not struggle when I handle him. Eats, drinks, can fly, but it is a bit off. His poop is like in PMV birds. Color of the fluid is bright yellow and I think it is something else too. I treated him for parasites, and started immuno-stimulants. Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:36:22 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/pmv-and-something-else-t817.htm#7646 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/pmv-and-something-else-t817.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/wing-injury-t194.htm Fancyfeathers This is Pij'ette. She was presented to me in 2003 with a well established, untreated wing injury. Although I was very new to this whole rescue/rehab side of life, I could clearly see her wing was injured and she had a 'bump' at the bend of her wing at the injury site. I attributed that to the wing not healing properly, but felt a thorough exam was in order by our local rehabber. Upon exam, the rehabber began pulling out a few small feathers where the bump was. What I thought was improper ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:12:18 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/wing-injury-t194.htm#1069 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/wing-injury-t194.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/very-wet-poops-t858.htm pigeonwriter This morning I realized that the poops of our visitors have become very bad again. In one of the pots literally a lake was there - everything totally wet. I don't even know who of the visitors was sleeping there - I only realized during the night - when I went out on the balcony because I heard some noise - that the pijji that had occupied said flowerpot was sitting in front of the drinking bowl - later on he was back in his pot. The pijj that regularly sleeps in the long basket has improved ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:35:00 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/very-wet-poops-t858.htm#8448 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/very-wet-poops-t858.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/breathing-problem-t827.htm Jenaka I am at a loss about this one. Ladybug is a feral who was treated for a fractured leg at a rehabbers. It healed but quite crooked and she walks with a bad limp. She was not releasable so I took her and she paired up with one of my males. She has been inside for nearly a year now with no problems. She is a young bird. She's been wormed. The past couple of days I noticed her breathing to be more pronounced. I can't see any other symptoms. She's eating and drinking fine, normal poop. She sat ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:18:08 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/breathing-problem-t827.htm#7814 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/breathing-problem-t827.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/a-badly-injured-pigeon-on-my-balcony-t789.htm pigeonwriter Well - today I found a badly injured pigeon - adult but still young - on my balcony. As I was cleaning the floor a bit again this afternoon I realized that one of our visitors who sleep in pigeoncity in the night was already sitting in one of the little nests, totally puffed up although it was not too cold today - about 9°C. So I wondered about it. A couple of minutes later she (I think it was a she) jumped out of the nest and was picking feverishly from the floor although there was no food. I ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:49:59 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/a-badly-injured-pigeon-on-my-balcony-t789.htm#7050 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/a-badly-injured-pigeon-on-my-balcony-t789.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/horrific-injuries-to-baby-woodie-warning-not-pleasant-reading-t766.htm jamy Hi, wasn't sure whether I should post this here or in the Woodies section. Feel free to move if necessary. I've spoken to Cynthia this morning when I first found this poor baby to check on anti-biotics, so have started her on Synulox. I had no idea how badly she was injured until later. This poor baby was literally been eaten alive by two crows and the parent was trying to distract them and so they dropped her right in the path of my car. I didn't know what it was until I stopped so ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:19:51 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/horrific-injuries-to-baby-woodie-warning-not-pleasant-reading-t766.htm#6789 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/horrific-injuries-to-baby-woodie-warning-not-pleasant-reading-t766.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/nitazoxanide-new-drug-worth-exploring-t761.htm plamenh I did come across relatively new anti-canker medicine that I believe is worth exploring. Nitazoxanide – brand names Alinia, Annita, Daxon, Dexidex, Kidonax, Pacovanton, Paramix (Mexico), Nitax, Zox, Nitazox, Toza (Bangladesh). It is used in resistant Trichomonas insted Metronidazole and Carnidazole. It is broad antiprotozoal drug that has also limited antiviral and antibacterial activity. Fast acting – used either as single dose or 3 day treatment. Safe – on overdose indications ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:08:02 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/nitazoxanide-new-drug-worth-exploring-t761.htm#6665 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/nitazoxanide-new-drug-worth-exploring-t761.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/dark-spots-on-the-plumage-what-could-this-mean-t736.htm pigeonwriter I am a bit worried about our Jimi. He is quite a big pigeon with broad shoulders, light grey plumage with a nice calm character. This morning everything was okay still. He came as ususal for breakfast and I handfed him as I do each morning. In the late afternoon when he came again for supper I noticed several dark spots on his plumage: several on his breast, on one wing, around his mouth and a dark ring around his left eye. I could not see any open injuries, not even a single damaged feather. ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:46:22 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/dark-spots-on-the-plumage-what-could-this-mean-t736.htm#6310 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/dark-spots-on-the-plumage-what-could-this-mean-t736.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/deliberate-poisoning-t666.htm Teresa I don't have the words to express my rage and my grief. I just found out that on Mon. 14th the entire flock of pigeons from Praça 8 de Maio appeared dead, victims of deliberate poisoning. I haven't been going to that part of town and I hadn't come across any other pigeon people recently, so I didn't know. The police are investigating, but nothing is known yet. Animal lovers point an accusing finger at local shop-keepers, who 'didn't like the mess'. I would appreciate any info/links ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:07:40 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/deliberate-poisoning-t666.htm#5385 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/deliberate-poisoning-t666.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/helpful-articcle-from-the-pigeon-network-t707.htm Matilda Some good information for those of us that rescue/rehab. Pascal Lanneau Veterinarian - Some Breeding Tips! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dear pigeon fancier, The racing period is a very important period for all pigeon fanciers, but don’t neglect the breeding season. During this period the future champions are bred, the basics for the next generation!!! In ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:00:33 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/helpful-articcle-from-the-pigeon-network-t707.htm#5907 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/helpful-articcle-from-the-pigeon-network-t707.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/coccidiosis-t725.htm Matilda Coccidiosis By Dr. Colin Walker B.Sc. B.V.Sc. M.A.C.V.S (avian health) In my last article I discussed the most common disease stopping good pigeons from performing well during racing, namely wet canker. This article discusses a second problem that can also do this, coccidiosis. Here in a nut shell is how to stop this still surprisingly common problem from affecting your birds race performance. What is it? Coccidia are a group of parasitic organisms that have the amazing ability to ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:41:10 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/coccidiosis-t725.htm#6130 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/coccidiosis-t725.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/senegal-dove-with-bad-canker-t566.htm plamenh It was promising to be a quiet Sunday morning. Alas, it was not meant. This little fellow was sitting in front of my cote in desperate need of help. Very bad case of canker almost totally obstructing trachea opening. I cleaned throat with Lugols solution diluted in water and gave him ½ tablet Spartrix. I’m giving him some time to warm up and I’ll give him some formula with honey to boost his energy. Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:52:22 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/senegal-dove-with-bad-canker-t566.htm#4456 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/senegal-dove-with-bad-canker-t566.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/very-good-article-on-recognising-the-sign-of-illnesss-t659.htm Matilda Recognising Signs of Illness in Your Bird by Dr. Tony Gestier BVSc. (Hons.), MACVSc. Vetafarm Australia Early signs of illness in birds are frequently not recognised by the pet owner. As a survival tactic in the wild, a sick bird will attempt to maintain a normal appearance for as long as possible, so that by the time any signs of illness are apparent, the bird may have been ill for some time. The bird that dies "suddenly" may be the result of the owners failure to make distinctions ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:37:31 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/very-good-article-on-recognising-the-sign-of-illnesss-t659.htm#5307 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/very-good-article-on-recognising-the-sign-of-illnesss-t659.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/a-book-you-would-like-t629.htm plamenh I bought today new book “Fit to Win” author Dr. Wim Peters. It is really good book covering pigeon diseases, injuries, treatment and medication with their dosages. There are a lot of photographs inside too. The book is 400 pages in total. Although today one can find all kind of info on the net and lie in the bed with a notebook, I still value a good old-fashioned book. Only problem I have is that book is targeting racing pigeon owners. Some sections discuss culling in terms ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:26:26 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/a-book-you-would-like-t629.htm#5006 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/a-book-you-would-like-t629.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/discussing-canker-t241.htm Fancyfeathers Canker is probably one of the most common pigeon aliments. Cynthia has provided us with a 'must read' piece on this issue. Here is the link to her post. Canker For those who have any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to post them here. Cindy Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:07:52 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/discussing-canker-t241.htm#1371 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/discussing-canker-t241.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/youngster-with-salmonella-t586.htm plamenh A week ago, I took young pigeon with Salmonella infection. Mucous, smelly green diarrhea, left leg paralysis, very thin, breast muscle almost non-existent. I started syringe feeding baby mix with honey. Medication as follows: Spartrix 1 tablet – first day. Diclazuril 1 tablet – first day. Combination of Sulphadimetazine, Chlorampenicol, Furazolidone and Dimetridazole for 5 days. From yesterday, he is on vitamins, probiotics, Arnica and Beta-glucan. Every day he has 10 minutes ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:00:22 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/youngster-with-salmonella-t586.htm#4642 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/youngster-with-salmonella-t586.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/i-think-penny-cracked-her-beak-t568.htm Teresa I totally messed up! Let Penny out for flight practice, forgetting to 'introduce' her to the window (she'd only ever been out of her cage at dusk) and she flew into the windowpane at full speed. I think she cracked her beak, poor thing. She was a bit subdued after that, but I can't see any other changes of behaviour. Are the symptoms for concussion in birds the same as in humans? If not, what should I look out for? Will the beak heal by itself? She's got grit and oyster shell. Should ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:22:14 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/i-think-penny-cracked-her-beak-t568.htm#4482 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/i-think-penny-cracked-her-beak-t568.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/very-good-information-about-young-birds-sickness-and-other-deseases-t531.htm pigeonwriter After Teresa wrote about the sad passing of a young hen, assuming that she died of YBS - I went researching what exactly that is. I found an extremely interesting website which I did not want to withhold. This site contains a lot of information about various deseases. Alberta Classic Checking about Young Bird Sickness (YBS) the site contains following article: Young Bird Sickness Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:27:19 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/very-good-information-about-young-birds-sickness-and-other-deseases-t531.htm#4149 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/very-good-information-about-young-birds-sickness-and-other-deseases-t531.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/severe-canker-infestation-t478.htm pigeonwriter None of the following symptoms was to be seen that Charis described so detailed in the thread of the "balcony pigeons" Matilda wrote:Here are some other symptoms of canker as expalined in an article by Colin Walker... 1. 'Penguin' posture - Associated with proventricular (glandular stomach) and crop pain. Birds will lean back on their tails and gulp. Noticed particularly after eating and drinking. 2. 'Dry feather' - Due to lack of down feather drop and bloom production. 3. ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:29:05 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/severe-canker-infestation-t478.htm#3399 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/severe-canker-infestation-t478.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/our-pigeon-shows-symptoms-of-pmv-t436.htm Aksana Hi everybody. I' ve been serching the Internet trying to find some information about pigeons and how to look after them. I dicovered this site which is extremly helpful. I read the topic about pigeons with PMV. It says there is no cure for PMV. Do pigeons ever fly with this condition? My husband found a pigeon a month ago and brought him home (he was about 20 days old and couldn't fly) First, we thought that he didn't fly because he was too young. So we decided to look after him for a couple ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:48:49 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/our-pigeon-shows-symptoms-of-pmv-t436.htm#2864 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/our-pigeon-shows-symptoms-of-pmv-t436.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/how-long-to-keep-a-fractured-leg-splinted-t437.htm Jaye Hey all.... Am contiuning to care for the cute fledgling who was the victim of a hawk attack several weeks ago. It took several, several days to actually catch him after I noticed his leg was injured and many of his tailfeathers missing. You know how that goes...they are hurt but still flighted...so you gotta make a judgment on how aggressive you are going to be in trying to catch 'em. Anyway, that's another part of the story. 4 trips to the avian vet later, he's been on cipro ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:48:41 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/how-long-to-keep-a-fractured-leg-splinted-t437.htm#2881 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/how-long-to-keep-a-fractured-leg-splinted-t437.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/circovirus-expertise-needed-please-t424.htm elizabethy Hello- A terribly down and injured pigeon, thought to be an Indian Fantail/Archangel cross and now named Winter, was brought into a San Jose shelter and taken in by MickaCoo. The vet tested and found him to be positive for circovirus. He's made an incredible recovery and is doing much better but I need advice on how to properly place him. Is circovirus a danger to an adopters' pigeons? Does Winter now need a non-pigeon/dove placement? Is it a common finding? Any real world advice ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:10:46 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/circovirus-expertise-needed-please-t424.htm#2793 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/circovirus-expertise-needed-please-t424.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/an-incident-that-opened-my-eyes-to-the-plight-of-pigeons-t418.htm spdevanand Hi guys, I am from Bangalore (India) and a relatively new member on this forum. Wanted to share with all of you an incident which took place around 3 months back and which really opened my eyes to the plight of these delicate and beautiful birds. I had never imagined before this incident that birds could be subjected to such horrific diseases. I probably saw them through rosy glasses and thought that they lived happy lives :( I found a pigeon in my apartment complex which was listless ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:17:10 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/an-incident-that-opened-my-eyes-to-the-plight-of-pigeons-t418.htm#2743 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/an-incident-that-opened-my-eyes-to-the-plight-of-pigeons-t418.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/images-of-avian-pox-t357.htm PoppyField I hope Cynthia can use these images, they are of Roger, one of my first pigeon rescues in 2007. I originally caught him after seeing him being attacked by a cat. He had two large wounds but after a week on antibiotics was healing well. He then had canker and it took another week to heal from that. He then started showing symptoms of Avian pox. The lesions started on his toes and he ended up with two main lesions on his beak. He was a fighter and we thought he turned a corner as the lesions looked ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:36:38 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/images-of-avian-pox-t357.htm#2370 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/images-of-avian-pox-t357.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/please-send-good-wishes-to-pretty-bird-t336.htm Jenaka I work in an after hours emergency animal hospital. On Tuesday, my day off, my co-worker opened the hospital at 5pm and found 2 pigeons in a box at the door. Who knows how long they were sitting in that box in the sun! One bird was so bad off they euthanized it. The other was standing and seemed to be eating. I went to work yesterday and looked at the bird. It was alert but weak, standing hunched with slightly dropped wings. It was a beautiful bird, white with large multi color spots and ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:38:16 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/please-send-good-wishes-to-pretty-bird-t336.htm#2191 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/please-send-good-wishes-to-pretty-bird-t336.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/stimulating-a-sick-pigeon-to-eat-t318.htm Cynthia Moreta and My Little Angel are both very ill, in separate "hospital" cages that are pressed up against the aviry so they can see other pigeons. One of the problems I have with My Little Angel is that she won't allow me to gavage or to seed pop...as soon as I open her mouth she deliberately starts to regurgitate, risking aspiration...so I have to back off. Last night, John and I were talking about how seeing another pigeon eat will stimulate sick ones to eat. Today I put it ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:50:40 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/stimulating-a-sick-pigeon-to-eat-t318.htm#2023 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/stimulating-a-sick-pigeon-to-eat-t318.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/little-dove-t268.htm Cynthia This morning a man called Rob, who lives in some flats a couple of miles from here, telephoned to say he had found a cat caught dove. He said that he actually found it with the cat sitting next to it and it looked fine, but on closer inspection he found blood on its back. This is the second his second rescue in about a month...very nice lad! The wound looked more like a scrape and I wonder if the cat picked it up and carried it, wounding it accidentally. It was quite warm, but I put ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:13:05 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/little-dove-t268.htm#1481 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/little-dove-t268.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/splayed-legs-cause-and-treatment-t240.htm Fancyfeathers Splayed legs is a condition babies develop when there is nothing for them to grasp on to while in the nest. An indication of a splayed leg is when the babies leg begins to point outward from the body. This can occur with both legs or just one and can be corrected if detected early enough. To help prevent this from happening, make sure there is something under the baby, e.g., a small wash cloth, a piece of an old T-shirt, etc., for them to grasp on to, thereby allowing the legs to stay underneath ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:57:32 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/splayed-legs-cause-and-treatment-t240.htm#1370 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/splayed-legs-cause-and-treatment-t240.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/need-some-help-re-pmv-and-antibiotics-t177.htm Jaye Hi all. Am between a rock and a hard place. I have a patient, survivor of attempted hawk attack, resulting in a small gash beneath left eye. I treated him, washed the wound, applied silvadene to it, and medicated him w/ cipro and medacam. I then noticed he was exhibiting symptoms oft associated w/ PMV...star-gazing, floppy head, bad coordination, ability to walk only backwards....flapping wings wildly until he eventually falls over himself and just stops moving (usually with head under body ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:43:25 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/need-some-help-re-pmv-and-antibiotics-t177.htm#916 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/need-some-help-re-pmv-and-antibiotics-t177.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/help-t180.htm Matilda

I tried using Sammy as a model and he wouldn't cooperate.
I'm unable to find one on the internet and I need one ASAP for Jaye.
If you do, please post it here.]]> Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:15:22 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/help-t180.htm#929 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/help-t180.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/fungal-infection-t156.htm THE SNIPES A bad experience with fungus. I've recently had a long ordeal during which I nursed & lost two beloved pigeons, despite my best efforts and more money that I can afford to spend on vet care, and I wanted to share the experience with others who may be interested and benefit. As a brief background, in August of 2007 I brought 3 young birds home from a fellow fancier, who were kept in quarantine 3 weeks and then moved into the main loft. About 2 weeks after they moved in one bird became ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:10:56 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/fungal-infection-t156.htm#795 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/fungal-infection-t156.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/hair-not-string-injury-t129.htm Fancyfeathers Kim called me Monday evening about one of her 'resident' ferals that was limping. Upon capture she noticed it had string wrapped around it's foot. Generally four hands are better than two, so she brought the little one over. While she was on her way, I called Charis to run through the drill of removing it. She went through your list, Cynthia, and it was a tremendous help. When I started to remove it, we discovered it was human hair that was entangled around the foot. After about 90 ... Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:27:07 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/hair-not-string-injury-t129.htm#638 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/hair-not-string-injury-t129.htm http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/maggots-good-vs-bad-t78.htm Fancyfeathers Hi Cynthia, Many thanks for posting about Maggie's encounter with maggots. Although not the most pleasant subject, it's important that we all take note of it. The more we learn, the better we are prepared to assist our feathered friends. The following link will take you directly to Cynthia's post. http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/illnesses-injuries-their-symptoms-and-treatment-f11/maggots-fly-strike-fly-blow-myiasis-t77.htm To both of you. Cindy Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:11:46 GMT http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/maggots-good-vs-bad-t78.htm#289 http://pij-n-angels.forumotion.net/pigeon-and-dove-illness-and-injury-discussion-forum-f21/maggots-good-vs-bad-t78.htm