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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:28 pm

Spartrix is the only medication I used to give my canker rescues (when I was rescuing) and it worked wonderfully.

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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:23 pm

I've never had great results with spartrix here. I think that canker strains varry from region to region and here, metronidazole works better.
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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:35 pm

AZJourney wrote:
Crash's beak has never grown back but having said that.... he gets along just like the rest of them. Crashes beak actually turned black when the tissue was dying.. and the beak on the pigeon below that you have isn't looking that way yet.... so possiblly there is hope for it to stay intact.
Just very curious, can Crash pick up seeds or any food?
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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:31 pm

Yes.. he does pick up both.
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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:23 pm

Matilda wrote:

I've never had great results with spartrix here. I think that canker strains varry from region to region and here, metronidazole works better.

That's interesting.

When I saw a bag of Metronidazole hanging from Chuck's IV pole before his surgery I kind of laughed.
I relate it more to birds than I do people. :That\\\'s so f

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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:44 pm

I do too, Cindy.
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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:41 pm

Jim, How is this baby doing? Has the canker coming from the nostril improved?

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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:43 pm

I've been wondering too.
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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:07 pm

I hope she's doing OK.

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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:47 pm

Jim,

I've been thinking of you and this baby.

Please advise us how she's doing.

I hope eveything is going well.

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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:49 pm

Sorry for dropping out of sight for a few days -- I was juggling several non-pigeon-related crises.

I took the baby to a vet on Thursday, and the vet thinks the canker is gone -- she took throat and mouth swabs as well as swabs of the growths, and she couldn't find any Trichomoniasis protozoa. She thinks it's a secondary skin infection. She presecribed 200 ml Zosyn injections twice a day, for 7 days, along with a once-a-day application of Silver Sulfadiazine cream directly on the growths.

I can't tell if it's helping yet. I'll post pictures shortly...
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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:27 pm

Thanks for the update, Jim.
I so glad to hear the little one is doing better.

Will be looking forward to the pictures. Picture(s)/video

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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:28 pm

Thanks, Jim. I actually just left you a phone message because I was wondering.
Has the canker in the nose decreased?
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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:29 pm

Jim, So glad to hear from you and know that the baby is doing better. YESS!! Good news that the vet assessed the canker to be no longer active.

Looking forward to seeing the pictures.

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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:40 pm

This story has gotten very interesting...had both Jim and myself freaking out this afternoon although we both pretended to be brave. :eek:
Jim will be around to tell you the story in a little bit.
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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:10 pm

I sure hope the baby is OK.




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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:37 pm

We'll be looking forward to Jim's update.

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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:38 pm

Although the pictures below are a bit disturbing, the baby is fine. It was pretty scary, but the entire mass of growths on the side of her face fell off today, exposing the sinus cavity, the mouth, the tounge etc. Fortunately, Dr. Latas at the Arizona Bird Clinic gave the baby a clean bill of health, saying that it looks like healthy tissue had been growing and healing underneath the mass of growths. The baby showed minimal distress, and possibly some relief. over the loss of tissue and seems able to eat and drink without significant problems. She's energetic, has a great attitude and seems to be doing just fine. She's actually been handling this situation a lot better than me. I'm applying several drops of a mixture of artificial tears and sulfadiazine twice a day to the newly exposed tissue, as directed by Dr. Latas.

Here are some scary pictures of the baby and the chunk of her face that fell off:











Although these pictures look terrible, the baby is doing fine, and seems to be in no pain. In retrospect, this was probably unavoidable in light of the extent of the original canker infection.
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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:10 am

I am so glad your little rescue was given a clean bill of health, Jim. YESS!!
Thrilled Happy Dance Celebrate

She actually doesn't look all that bad. flower
I'll bet she does feel much better. Smile

Thank you so much for the update and photos.

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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:38 am

WOW..........What a scare you must have had when that large growth fell off. Shock

I am so very glad that the Dr. has given her a clean bill of health. Happy Dance Hip Hip Hooray Thrilled Makes real good sense that this is all regrowth of healthy tissue after all the canker. It's wonderful news that with all this damage she is still able to eat and drink on her own. Happy Dance Woo hoo Happy Dance

You have done an exception job with her Jim YOU rock # 1 Way To Go

She needs time to heal now, but she is definately on the road to a full recovery.

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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:02 am

Scary but good. That pigeon is a fighter. I am glad she's doing fine. She's still beautiful and adorable.
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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:28 pm

Amazing! I would have been terrified if I'd had to deal with that, and I can imagine how you must have felt!
I'm so glad to hear the good news, and that she continues to improve and seems relieved at losing those growths! Great job She does look relaxed and alert!

Thank you for the updates and the photos -- I'm learning LOTS from this thread!
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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:31 am

As I wasn't around for some time I just found this thread again. Heaven - I never knew that canker could develop such a nasty result. Unbelievable how you saved this little angel's life and what the devlopment is. It is also amazing how the bird coped with the whole situtation - what a brave and couragious creature. She must have been in a lot of pain according to the photos.

I am grateful for your whole photo documentary - this shows perfectly what can be done with knowledge, care and lots of love. Thanks for letting us learn about it. This bird would have died a slow and long death if you would not have found her. I am glad you did.


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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:21 pm

Jim...I'd love an up date. I can't get this baby off my mind.
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PostSubject: Re: squeaker with missing eye   Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:51 pm

We're all interested in hearing how the little one is doing, when you have a minute, Jim. Smile

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