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PostSubject: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:38 am

I've just been handed a 2-week old baby canary who was separated from his mother yesterday because she was pecking him and wouldn't feed him.
Since then he's not eaten or drank and has been exposed to room temperature. Seeing red/mad Seeing red/mad Seeing red/mad
He's cold and listless, eyes closed, looks dehydrated, and his breathing is very fast and shallow. He hasn't pooped for hours. I've put him on a heating pad and will give him electrolytes as soon as his temperature has stabilised. If that works, I will give him some formula next (with an eye dropper?), but I don't know how much and how often to feed him, or whether he will need medicating.
Any advice greatly appreciated -- this is a real heart-breaker... Very sad

PS. I've posted the above in another forum as well -- please don't take it as a slight, it's just a desperate emergency.


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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:29 am

Poor, poor baby!

I have never fed a baby Canary before but I would suggest doing much the same as you would a baby pigeon at that age.

If the mother was pecking it she mostly hasn't been feeding it so I would start with eletrolytes mixed with a handfeeding diet, very,very runny & just a tiny bit at a time.

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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:57 am

Teresa...........I have nothing to add to what Robin has already advised.

The situation for this baby sounds so very critical. Very sad

I would just like to send positive healing thoughts and prayers your way.

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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:00 am

Teresa wrote:
I've just been handed a 2-week old baby canary who was separated from his mother yesterday because she was pecking him and wouldn't feed him.
Since then he's not eaten or drank and has been exposed to room temperature. Seeing red/mad Seeing red/mad Seeing red/mad
He's cold and listless, eyes closed, looks dehydrated, and his breathing is very fast and shallow. He hasn't pooped for hours. I've put him on a heating pad and will give him electrolytes as soon as his temperature has stabilised. If that works, I will give him some formula next (with an eye dropper?), but I don't know how much and how often to feed him, or whether he will need medicating.
Any advice greatly appreciated -- this is a real heart-breaker... Very sad

PS. I've posted the above in another forum as well -- please don't take it as a slight, it's just a desperate emergency.

Teresa... I agree with Robin and Louise...the baby should be fed until his crop is about 3/4 full. Once it empties...feed him again. Canaries don't hold as much food as pigeons do and they process it much more quickly and you will need to fed whenever the crop is empty.
I can't say what medications you should give him or if any since we don't know why mom stopped feeding .
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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:28 pm

Teresa wrote:

* I've just been handed a 2-week old baby canary who was separated from his mother yesterday because she was pecking him and wouldn't feed him.

Since then he's not eaten or drank and has been exposed to room temperature. Seeing red/mad Seeing red/mad Seeing red/mad
He's cold and listless, eyes closed, looks dehydrated, and his breathing is very fast and shallow. He hasn't pooped for hours. I've put him on a heating pad and will give him electrolytes as soon as his temperature has stabilised. If that works, I will give him some formula next (with an eye dropper?), but I don't know how much and how often to feed him, or whether he will need medicating.
Any advice greatly appreciated -- this is a real heart-breaker... Very sad

PS. ** I've posted the above in another forum as well -- please don't take it as a slight, it's just a desperate emergency.

I am sorry to hear about the little canary, Teresa.
Sending positive thoughts to you both. Circle of Love Universal hug

** Absolutely not! I hope your other contact will be of assistance to you.

Please keep us posted.

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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:54 pm

He's still alive.
I've done what you suggested and that's kept him going. Thank You I haven't tried tube-feeding him as my equipment is too big, but rubbing one drop of electrolytes at a time against his beak works, he drinks it. After he's drunk, he has opened his beak enough to put some runny formula, one tiny drop at a time, inside the tip of his beak. Then he closes it and swallows.
His breathing isn't quite as fast now, and he's even managed some poop-looking poops. But he's far from being out of danger -- his left foot is broken, and I don't know what other horrors I may find yet.

I'm ashamed to admit this, but the poor little thing belongs to my sister-in-law. She's wealthy and she's a pharmacist. Seeing red/mad Charis may remember my asking for advice about a canary that was unwell -- it was the baby's father. He appeared to have a GI tract infection and had stopped singing. Instead of chosing an appropriate antibiotic and taling him to the vet asap, she went to the pet shop and bought meds for ornithosis and a female canary. ("Cause if he wasn't singing he must have been sad and lonely.") nutter So the baby may have been ill from birth.

I had steam coming out of my ears when I phoned her this evening, asking how come his foot was broken and what else she hadn't told me. She said, 'He fell off the nest, or he was pushed. I found him in the bottom of the cage in the morning. Then when I put him back in the nest, the mother started pecking him so hard she drew blood from his back, and I separated them. The male has been pecking the female too*, so they're in separate cages. I'm getting fed up with these birds, and just feel like opening the window and letting them go!'
Naturally we had a row...

* I saw the results... she had dried blood on her face. I sent her to the chemist's to get hydrogen peroxide and q-tips to disinfect the peck wounds. If she's not done it by tomorrow, I'm keeping all three. Or boxing her ears. Or both.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:25 pm

Teresa.........I am so happy to hear that the little one is starting to rally. YESS!! I really think that by keeping her warm, offering small amounts of hydration and nutrition with the formula you should be able to stabalize the little one.

I don't know what to advise you about the broken leg, but I would assume it would be handled in a similar way as a pigeons. Sounds like you will need the advice of your Vet. Thank goodness you have a great Vet

As far as your sister-in-law is concerned, I have one just like that Oh no Seeing red/mad You rescued this little one just in the nick of time. You are propably wise to just keep all three birds. If your sister-in-law is aything like mine, I wouldn't trust her with any animal.

Please keep us posted.

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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:35 pm

I was sent a video link on how to hand feed a baby canary. It's the sweetest thing, so I think you will like to watch it too:

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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:39 pm

And here's another. They seem less likely to aspirate than pigeons...

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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:42 pm

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Teresa.........I am so happy to hear that the little one is starting to rally. YESS!! I really think that by keeping her warm, offering small amounts of hydration and nutrition with the formula you should be able to stabalize the little one.

I don't know what to advise you about the broken leg, but I would assume it would be handled in a similar way as a pigeons. Sounds like you will need the advice of your Vet. Thank goodness you have a great Vet

As far as your sister-in-law is concerned, I have one just like that Oh no Seeing red/mad You rescued this little one just in the nick of time. You are propably wise to just keep all three birds. If your sister-in-law is aything like mine, I wouldn't trust her with any animal.

Please keep us posted.

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I agree I think you're right! Why do emergencies always happen on closing day?! Oh brother
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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:43 pm

The video is so sweet I love it/them . Thanks for sharing it.

When you feel the time is right Teresa, I would love to see a picture of your little canary.


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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:48 pm

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I agree I think you're right! Why do emergencies always happen on closing day?! Oh brother


Your're right Teresa........most of all my rescues I have found on the weekends here when Dr. Hauck's office is closed.


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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:14 pm

Yes I do remember about you asking me about his dad, Teresa.

I'm so glad he's still alive. I've been wondering and hoping for the best all day.
The youtube videos are great. I never tube a baby bird as I have not found it necessary unless they are very sick.

Sounds like your sister in law shouldn't have birds, at least that's what I'm thinking after what you told us.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:31 pm

Baby is rallying back!

He's just had a really good meal and... opened one eye, just briefly! Happy Dance
I made him a 'spoon' from a piece of drinking straw cut lengthways and with the end bevelled.

I've got some pics and videos, but it's very late to upload them now, as I'll have to get up for work in 5 hours' time.

Charis, you're right about my sister-in-law. She should stick to fluffy toys.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:34 pm

I'm so glad the little one is hanging in there, Teresa. YESS!!
Thanks for sharing the videos.

Please keep us posted.

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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:40 pm

Teresa wrote:
Baby is rallying back!

* He's just had a really good meal and... opened one eye, just briefly! Happy Dance
I made him a 'spoon' from a piece of drinking straw cut lengthways and with the end bevelled.

** I've got some pics and videos, but it's very late to upload them now, as I'll have to get up for work in 5 hours' time.

Charis, you're right about my sister-in-law. She should stick to fluffy toys.

* Thrilled

** We will be looking forward to seeing your pictures and videos when time permits.

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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:53 pm

Those are great videos. Looking forward to seeing your baby.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:14 am

Picture(s)/video

Saturday, on arrival:



Saturday, after electrolytes:



This morning, after breakfast:



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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:47 am

Teresa......The video from Saturday is pitiful to watch. Very sad You really did get this baby just in the nick of time.

This mornings pictures look amazing What a difference a little warmth, food and love can make Pigeon angel Circle of Love Look at that full little crop I love it/them

I am so very happy that this little one is looking and feeling so much better Happy Dance Hip Hip Hooray Thrilled


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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:13 am

Precious little bird. I'm so gald he is improving.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:22 am


Teresa I'm so very glad the baby is getting better! I love it/them

Love the videos & photos please keep posting new ones. That's too funny
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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:53 am

It hurt just to watch that video. Hope he keeps improving.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:27 am

Oh my goodness!! Such a little guy.

Bless his and your heart, Teresa.

Sending you both the most positive thoughts and get well wishes I can muster. Circle of Love

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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:47 pm

Thank You circling Your good wishes are paying off! Feeling great

Baby is improving rapidly! He now has both eyes open and peeps enthusiastically for food. He has started exercising his wings, those funny little things like pin cushions...
The vet was very happy with his progress. She tested his legs and feet -- they have sensitivity and some strength, so wait and see. She said any splint we could devise for his toes would be too heavy for him, as he's soooo tiny!

I've called him Xi-ri (pronounced 'shee-ree', which is the sound he makes! Tickled Pink
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PostSubject: Re: Baby canary close to death   Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:11 pm

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Thank You circling Your good wishes are paying off! Feeling great

Baby is improving rapidly! He now has both eyes open and peeps enthusiastically for food.

He has started exercising his wings, those funny little things like pin cushions...
The vet was very happy with his progress. She tested his legs and feet -- they have sensitivity and some strength, so wait and see. She said any splint we could devise for his toes would be too heavy for him, as he's soooo tiny!

I've called him Xi-ri (pronounced 'shee-ree', which is the sound he makes! Tickled Pink

YESS!! High 5

YOU rock LOTS!! Teresa. Pigeon angel

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