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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:26 am

I'm so happy Happy Dance Thrilled Celebrate to hear that little Parthu is showing such great signs of improvement.

You have done an amazing job with him Way To Go


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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:38 pm

Appreciate the update, Dev.
I'm so glad to hear that Parthu is improving. YESS!!

Please keep us posted.

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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:26 pm

That's the best kind of update we can read. Thanks Dev. All of your caring and attention is paying off.
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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:06 pm

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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:01 pm

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I love that! Happy Dance

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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:55 am

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I love that! Happy Dance

me too! Happy Dance
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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:52 am

[quote="Fancyfeathers"]
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Just love that That's too funny

Just wanted to update you folks. Bird is continuing to be good. He eats on his own, most of the time. A bit more active than what he was. The pox on his head are drying still.

I had completed 7 days of Metronidazole by today. His poops are little watery, greenish with white particles. Anything else that I can look for ?
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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:27 am

Appreciate the update, Dev.
Glad to hear the little one is doing good and that the pox are beginning to dry up. Celebrate

Hopefully, the poops will get better as his eating gets better.

Please keep us posted.

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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:44 am

Dev...it would be a good idea to feed her 1cc, 3 times a day, or plain yogurt with active cultures. It could be she has a yeast infection and that may help clear it up.
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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:07 am

Sure Charis, I started with this today.

Today morning when I picked up the baby from the cage I found one of the pox had fallen off, the place where pox was present looks like a hole now Very sad I hope it does not cause any additional problems. I am making sure not to touch that area while I am feeding / handling him. He still has few other pox growth over his head but most of them are drying up, I think they should come off on their own. Please let me know if you guys think I can apply some medicine like Neosporin or let it dry on it's own.
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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:48 am

Thanks for the update, Dev. Smile
I'm thinking just leave the areas alone where the pox are falling off, unless it looks like there might be something going on.

Any chance you could post a photo of the area where the one pox fell off leaving the hole?

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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:16 am

Dev...can you post a picture of the hole?
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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:32 am

Dev - I was just reading this thread and I am so sorry that you lost one of the babies. But I am also extremely happy that the second one is improving. This is really good news. It is always so sad when we try everything what we can and still cannot help. Feeling so useless then.

Regarding feeding under-nourished birds I am completely relying on baby cereals and have had best experience with this. Also to keep the PH value acidic (with apple vinegar or baby applesauce) helps a lot. All our sick birds have gained weight again quickly with feeding them the cereals with a syringe directly into the crop. If it helps here are some pics how I do it:



These are just regular syringes and I used a simple plastic tube cut to the right length for the crop feeding. In order to keep the plastic tube soft in order to avoid potential injury I fill it with hot water before I suck up the fluid.

Btw - over a long period I always added some pro-biotic joghurt to the meals for better gut flora.

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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:12 am

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Dev - I was just reading this thread and I am so sorry that you lost one of the babies. But I am also extremely happy that the second one is improving. This is really good news. It is always so sad when we try everything what we can and still cannot help. Feeling so useless then.

Regarding feeding under-nourished birds I am completely relying on baby cereals and have had best experience with this. Also to keep the PH value acidic (with apple vinegar or baby applesauce) helps a lot. All our sick birds have gained weight again quickly with feeding them the cereals with a syringe directly into the crop. If it helps here are some pics how I do it:



These are just regular syringes and I used a simple plastic tube cut to the right length for the crop feeding. In order to keep the plastic tube soft in order to avoid potential injury I fill it with hot water before I suck up the fluid.

Btw - over a long period I always added some pro-biotic joghurt to the meals for better gut flora.

Sending lots of love for you and your sick bird Universal hug

You are right. The baby cereals seems to be very good food for them. I am still little scared and not confident with tube feeding (I am too scared that I would hurt the baby somehow), but i use a syringe to feed the cereals. I know it takes nearly 20 to 30 mins to feed around 10ml of food in this method That's too funny I hope I will soon learn the trick of tube feeding Smile Thanks you very much for sharing the info.
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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:15 am

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Thanks for the update, Dev. Smile
I'm thinking just leave the areas alone where the pox are falling off, unless it looks like there might be something going on.

Any chance you could post a photo of the area where the one pox fell off leaving the hole?

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Dev...can you post a picture of the hole?

I was not able to take a very close shot, but here is one of what I could take today,



Please let me know if this image helps.
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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:30 pm

I'm going to see if I can lighten the image up some.
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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:44 pm

Well I saved the picture to my computer and now I can't find it. Oh no

Dev...I would watch it for any changes.
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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:06 pm

I think this is a little lighter.

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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:54 pm

It looks like there might be a core or something in the middle of the hole.
Does that sound accurate, Dev?

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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:01 am

AZWhitefeather wrote:
It looks like there might be a core or something in the middle of the hole.
Does that sound accurate, Dev?

Hi Cindy, the main area where the pox has fallen off, now has a hole. But the surrounding part has surface wounds and internal wound may be present.
The pic is not very clear as i found it difficult to hold Parthu and hold the cam in the other hand Disappointed
I will try to post a better image today.

I feel it is more of surface wounds due to the pox Cindy. Will that heal up eventually?
Also another pox on the other side also fell off today morning. It is painful to watch :( it must be quite painful for poor Parthu :(
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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:06 am

I'm sure it will heal OK, Dev. Just keep a real close eye on it, and any other spots where the pox has fallen off, to make sure there doesn't appear to be any infection starting.

You did great with the picture. I know how hard it is to hold the subject and juggle the camera at the same time. Disappointed

Sending my best wishes to you both that all continues to improve. Universal hug

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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:59 am

Dev - this was my fear at first too but it is not so difficult with tube feeding - it helps a lot to coat the plastic tube with vegetable oil - this way it nearly slips into the throat all by itself. It is important to stretch the bird's head upwards - by holding his beak - and a bit backwards so that his whole throat is straight. Gently open his beak and slip the tube inside - when it goes down without any obstacle it is right.

I have also sanded the edge of the tube carefully so that there is absolutely nothing that could hurt the bird's tissue. I have tried it in my own mouth whether there is any sharp edge nutter

When the tube is inserted - mine are about 9 cm long - slowly! press the content into the bird's crop and when empty pull it out slowly! again.

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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:12 pm

I will say this regarding tube feeding. I was lucky, years ago, to have Deb show me how to do it. It took several times, under her supervision until I was comfortable. While som,e will be it up on the first try, with others it takes longer. When one is tube feeding, it is critical that they are comfortable doing it and sure of what they are doing. Less than that can be disasterious.
The point... if you are unsure...don't attempt to tube feed until you can have someone show you a few time.
I am happy to instruct you via webcam, Dev, if you want or at least try to show you.
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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:40 pm

AZWhitefeather wrote:
I'm sure it will heal OK, Dev. Just keep a real close eye on it, and any other spots where the pox has fallen off, to make sure there doesn't appear to be any infection starting.

You did great with the picture. I know how hard it is to hold the subject and juggle the camera at the same time. Disappointed

Sending my best wishes to you both that all continues to improve. Universal hug

Thanks Cindy Smile I tried to take some snaps today but none of them were clear. I will monitor the baby closely for any changes in those areas. I will keep you guys updated.
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PostSubject: Re: 2 squeakers that need help   Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:38 pm

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Dev - this was my fear at first too but it is not so difficult with tube feeding - it helps a lot to coat the plastic tube with vegetable oil - this way it nearly slips into the throat all by itself. It is important to stretch the bird's head upwards - by holding his beak - and a bit backwards so that his whole throat is straight. Gently open his beak and slip the tube inside - when it goes down without any obstacle it is right.

I have also sanded the edge of the tube carefully so that there is absolutely nothing that could hurt the bird's tissue. I have tried it in my own mouth whether there is any sharp edge nutter

When the tube is inserted - mine are about 9 cm long - slowly! press the content into the bird's crop and when empty pull it out slowly! again.

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Thanks for explaining it in details Smile Infact, even the handfeeding method was too scary for me in the initial days. I always thought I would hurt the babies. But slowly after the suggestions by the forum members and watching some of the YouTube videos, I gained confidence. I know it is important that I learn this, I will learn it soon.

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I will say this regarding tube feeding. I was lucky, years ago, to have Deb show me how to do it. It took several times, under her supervision until I was comfortable. While som,e will be it up on the first try, with others it takes longer. When one is tube feeding, it is critical that they are comfortable doing it and sure of what they are doing. Less than that can be disasterious.
The point... if you are unsure...don't attempt to tube feed until you can have someone show you a few time.
I am happy to instruct you via webcam, Dev, if you want or at least try to show you.

I agree with you Charis. It is really great if we have someone who can teach us. Since I was not very confident about tubefeeding, I still continue to use the syringe for feeding the baby cereal to parthu Smile He takes nearly 20 mins to complete around 10ml of food That's too funny I am just reminded of moms running behind their kids to feed them ROTFL

I will catch up with you and you can assist me with the webcam too Smile
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