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PostSubject: A possible abandoned baby pigeon   Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:47 pm

High folks,

Could anyone give me some advice on how to feed a baby pigeon who's about three weeks old and may have been abandoned by his/her mum?

She didn't come home today and so I'm a little concerned for him/her.

Is it possible to mash up some oats to a liquid pulp to feed him/her, or could that cause problems?
Secondly, can pigeon's fly in the dark because its possible she might come home tonight?

He/Her is really fat at present so I'm not overly concerned today but by tomorrow I'll be really worried if she doesn't return...

Thanks in advance for any help

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PostSubject: Re: A possible abandoned baby pigeon   Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:42 pm

Hi David, and welcome to Pigeon Angels! Welcome

Three to four weeks is the age when babies start to eat solid food and to fend for themselves, especially as by then the parents will normally have another two eggs to sit. It's quite possible the parents of your little foundling have another nest elsewhere, and they may come back during the day to feed him, or they may not.

If this is the first night he's spent on his own I wouldn't worry just yet, but if you are around during the day tomorrow keep an eye out to see if one of the parents comes to feed him. You could perhaps try to throw him some soggy bread, well soaked in water, to see if he already knows how to peck for food.

If the parents don't come back and he doesn't know how to eat or drink by himself, and can't fly yet, this is the best way to provide adequate food and water for a baby of that age:

- You can hand feed defrosted corn and peas. Run some hot water over them until they are defrosted and slightly warmed. Put the bird on your lap and hold it next to your body. I f it helps, you can wrap a towel around it or put it in the sleeve of a tee shirt, with the head out the wrist. That confines them without hurting them and makes it easier to handle. Gently open the beak and pop the piece of corn and peas at the back of the mouth and over the throat. You will need to feed 40-50 per feeding* and every time the bird’s crop empties until you know it is eating on its own.
This is a wonderful method for teaching babies to eat because they feel the whole food in their mouth and it’s soft and easy to pick up and hang on to. The next step… seeds.
The crop is located right below the throat and with food it fills up like a little balloon. The peas and corn make it lumpy and squishy.


* He should have at least 100 per day.

- For water, fill something cup shaped that won't tip over with water and gently place his beak in it without covering the nostrils. If he is thirsty he should start drinking. Leave the water with him so that he can go back to it if he needs to.

- To teach a baby to pick up seeds, you can start with a bag of dove mix or small seeds and place a few in front of him. Then mimic picking them up with your thumb and index finger. He will become curious (they are curious little ones) and will start to mimic what you are doing. And before you know it he will be eating on his own.

If he's not to be kept as a pet, it's best to avoid much interaction with him except for feeding and giving him water. He will also need a safe place in which he can exercise his wings until they are strong enough to fly.

I hope this will help. Please keep us posted, and thank you for caring about this baby! Great job
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PostSubject: Re: A possible abandoned baby pigeon   Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:19 pm

Wow thanks for the speedy response...

I have just changed his bedding because it was really messy and I made up some Weetabix ,( A kind of Wheat based cereal ) with milk diluted by ten parts water and then blended into a liquid....I'll get some seeds tomorrow..
He/She pecked at me as I changed the bedding but other than that, all seems well...

I would never of thought that there was a website like this until I needed one...Thank you so much for your reply and welcome..
I will keep you posted of the progress...
My friends think I'm a bit strange because I actually care about pigeons and all creatures.
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PostSubject: Re: A possible abandoned baby pigeon   Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:42 pm

I hadn't realised that you had already brought the little guy indoors, David. Happy So he's got you wrapped round his little talon already, eh! That's too funny

Weetabix is a good idea (I'm rather partial to it myself, lol), but it's best just to mix it with warm water, as milk is something of a foreign substance to a pigeon. Yoghurt would be OK, though, especially live yoghurt, to provide him with some good gut bacteria.

When you say his bedding was messy, could it be that he's got diarrhoea? This is what healthy pigeon droppings should look like:



If the baby's droppings are very different from this, he may be unwell, in which case it would be a good idea if you could post photos of the youngster and his droppings.

If your friends think you're a bit strange for caring about pigeons and other creatures, then under no circumstances should you tell them that you spent an evening dwelling on the finer details of bird faeces -- it would be the death of your social life... That's too funny

Welcome to the club! cpp
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PostSubject: Re: A possible abandoned baby pigeon   Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:30 pm

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I hadn't realised that you had already brought the little guy indoors, David. Happy So he's got you wrapped round his little talon already, eh! That's too funny

Weetabix is a good idea (I'm rather partial to it myself, lol), but it's best just to mix it with warm water, as milk is something of a foreign substance to a pigeon. Yoghurt would be OK, though, especially live yoghurt, to provide him with some good gut bacteria.

When you say his bedding was messy, could it be that he's got diarrhoea? This is what healthy pigeon droppings should look like:



If the baby's droppings are very different from this, he may be unwell, in which case it would be a good idea if you could post photos of the youngster and his droppings.

If your friends think you're a bit strange for caring about pigeons and other creatures, then under no circumstances should you tell them that you spent an evening dwelling on the finer details of bird faeces -- it would be the death of your social life... That's too funny

Welcome to the club! cpp

He's not inside Teresa but on my balcony..

I'll remix the Weetabix and put water in this time!

The droppings are identical to those in the image too!

And lastly, who cares what my friends think...

Thanks for being there in my hour of need, I really get upset at the thought of any creature suffering, whatever they are!
I'll update the post tomorrow as its nearly bedtime for me here...Goodnight !

Thank you

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PostSubject: Re: A possible abandoned baby pigeon   Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:32 am

David. Hi there/Bye

It's great to have you here. Right on
Many thanks for looking after the little one.

Your confirmation on the droppings is a good sign. Great job
Pecking at you when you are changing his bedding is also a good sign, as it shows that for a feral Mom and Dad taught him well.

Is there any chance of posting a photo of him? We love photos. Smile

We look forward to your update.

Thank you, Teresa. Thank You Pigeon angel

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PostSubject: Re: A possible abandoned baby pigeon   Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:34 am

Hope the little guy is doing well, David. Feeling great Have mum or dad come back to feed him?

How experienced are you at feeding very young birds? Do you need some ideas? This link, for example, has two excellent videos on the syringe method...
http://www.pigeonangels.com/t1373-video-of-baby-pigeon-being-fed
... but at his age, any deep, narrow container may look interesting enough for him to stick his beak right in and make an unholy mess! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: A possible abandoned baby pigeon   Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:22 am

Teresa wrote:
Hope the little guy is doing well, David. Feeling great Have mum or dad come back to feed him?

How experienced are you at feeding very young birds? Do you need some ideas? This link, for example, has two excellent videos on the syringe method...
http://www.pigeonangels.com/t1373-video-of-baby-pigeon-being-fed
... but at his age, any deep, narrow container may look interesting enough for him to stick his beak right in and make an unholy mess! Laughing

Hi folks,

Tweety seems to be OK but as far as I can tell, Mum and Dad haven't appeared! Thanks for the additional welcome.. Cute Dove

I've given him a bowl of water, some mashed weetabix and some puréed nuts in water and he seems to have eaten some....
He doesn't seem to move much though, except when I go near him he pecks at me...

I'll check back with you tonight because I'm just off to work now Smile
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PostSubject: Re: A possible abandoned baby pigeon   Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:27 am

Mum's here unbelievably........

I just thought I'd check before work Smile Smile Smile Cute Dove Happy

I'll let you tonight how he is xx Cute Dove
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PostSubject: Re: A possible abandoned baby pigeon   Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:43 am

David wrote:
Mum's here unbelievably........
I just thought I'd check before work Smile Smile Smile Cute Dove Happy

I'll let you tonight how he is xx Cute Dove

That's brilliant!! So she's still keeping an eye on him... Great job That may mean he won't need much additional food.
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PostSubject: Re: A possible abandoned baby pigeon   Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:57 am

Hi David,

Hope the baby is doing well and growing up fast! Fingers crossed Feeling great

Would love to hear from you. Hi there/Bye
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