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 Took my pij to the Vet today

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PostSubject: Took my pij to the Vet today   Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:44 am

Turns out he had a slight case of worms. The Vet gave me Panacur which I was hesitant about because I've seen some posts on the Internet with not-so good results. Anyways I got a 3 day supply .2 ml a day based on its weight. Now the bird hates me since I have to capture it and force feed it these meds. Anything I can do to help our relationship out again? He pecks and fuffs his feathers at me now Sorry Only if he knew it was for his own good ..
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PostSubject: Re: Took my pij to the Vet today   Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:40 pm

Please don't give that wormer to your pigeon as it's highly toxic to some birds, pigeons being one of them. I know of several people that have lost pigeons from using it. I nearly lost one too but caught it in time and befroe giving the second dose. Most vets don't realize it's toxic to pigeons and doves.
A much safer wormer is ivermectin which is given once and then repeated in 10 days. Modectin plus, for example is safe and treats all worms.
There is plenty writtien about it, the follow as an example.

Fenbendazole From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




Fenbendazole (Hoechst brand names Panacur and Safe-Guard, Intervet Panacur and Panacur Rabbit) is a broad spectrum benzimidazole anthelmintic used against gastrointestinal parasites including roundworms, hookworms, whipworms, the taenia species of tapeworms, pinworms, aelurostrongylus, paragonimiasis, strongyles and strongyloides and can be administered to sheep, cattle, horses, fish, dogs, cats, rabbits and seals. Drug interactions may occur if using bromsalan flukicides such as dibromsalan and tribromsalan. Abortions in cattle and death in sheep have been reported after using these medications together.[1]

ToxicityDespite being widely used as a dewormer in many species, toxicity has been reported. Birds (storks, pink pelicans, vultures, pigeons and doves) and reptiles (vipers, turtles and tortoises) have shown toxicity associated with bone marrow suppression, intestinal crypt cell necrosis and distal villi sloughing.[citation needed] Abortions in domestic ruminants have been associated with concurrent use of anti-trematode therapeutic agents.[citation needed]

Fenbendazole is poorly absorbed from the gastrointestinal tract in most species. The LD50 in laboratory animals exceeds 10 g/kg when administered orally.[1]

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PostSubject: Re: Took my pij to the Vet today   Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:15 pm

I wouldn't give him Panacur either...

My vet prescribed Panacur to my pigeons once and I refused to give it to them, after warnings about its toxicity. I'm glad of that now, as I have found lots more disturbing evidence online, including a necropsy report in which the pigeon's death was directly attributed to Fenbendazole.
My vet did her own research too, and was convinced. She no longer prescribes Panacur now.
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PostSubject: Re: Took my pij to the Vet today   Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:50 am

ah crap, i've already given two doses to my bird. What should I do now ? He said the worm problem wasn't big so Im thinking by now they are probably all gone ? I'll skip the last dose then ? He seems totally fine eatting drinking, now im worried I might have damaged him in some fashion Sorry Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Took my pij to the Vet today   Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:41 pm

If he seems alright, then he may be one of the lucky ones, but I wouldn't give him any more. The ones that Matilda recommended are perfectly safe, so it would be a great idea to add one of them to your medicine cabinet, to use when needed. Maybe for now he's worm free, but if not, you can get any remaining worms next time round, and with a safer product.

And please don't feel guilty... when so many vets still don't know the dangers, how would anyone else unless they had been warned? Smile
You can also get Ivermectin as a spot-on wormer, which you can put on the back of his neck, and that shouldn't annoy him as much!

All the best, please keep us posted.
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PostSubject: Re: Took my pij to the Vet today   Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:14 am

Hello! Ordered some Moxidectin Plus and Pro-Vital today, going to take a stool sample to the vet for another fecal float to see if I have to administer another round of de-wormer. Thanks again everyone!
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PostSubject: Re: Took my pij to the Vet today   Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:31 pm

That's brilliant!
Hope the fecal comes out negative!
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