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PostSubject: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:55 am

Disappointed i read up alot on canker because i was worried about little oreo and it seems its exactly what he has. vomitting, not very often pooping, a hardness in the crop. also its spreadable?? should i seperate oreo and muffins?? that would break their little hearts Very sad now that i know more about this i remember, i found a baby pigeon on my back porch once and it had canker. a big buildup of yellow stuff in his mouth and throat, couldnt even feed him. he died that night. that information deffinately does not help calm me down about oreos situation. man oh man i wish someone was on now to help Not feeling well
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:56 pm

Hi AnnMarie,
If you suspect Oreo has canker, he, as well as Muffin, need to be treated.
Do you have any canker medication, such as Spartrix?

Normally I would suggest separating any sick birds from the rest.
In this situation if Oreo has canker, you can pretty much be assured Muffin has it as well. Since they have always been together, separating them may only add to the stress. Let's see what the others have to say about possibly separating them.

Just a little FYI: Another indication of advanced canker is the inside of a birds mouth will be sticky/mucous like.

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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:45 pm

i called charis and she said someone (cant remember the name of who >.<) is gunna send me some medication for them, i just hope its not too late by the time i get it :( i think i might be making it worse with having to force tube feed them, they hate it and i think it may be making them more stressed but they arnt getting enough from eating bird seed on their own
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:40 pm

NiteOwl is sending you the medications for canker. There was some confusion with your address. I frowarded to her the email you send me and the address had a dark background and she couldn't read it. I wasn't at home and so I couldn't read it to her but gave her your number and I hope you connected.


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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:19 pm

By the time I got the address and all, the P.O. was closed. I'll send out the Spartrix and Metronidazole tomorrow morning. I'm going to send it over night delivery, so it should arrive on Monday. Someone will have to be there to sign for it. I did connect with AnnMarie and let her know that.

As far as separating the birds. I wouldn't. As was mentioned, it would only cause more stress on the poor things, and as was also mentioned, if one has it, they probably both have it, so keep them together and treat the both of them.

Be looking forward to updates on them.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:24 pm

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i called charis and she said someone (cant remember the name of who >.<) is gunna send me some medication for them, i just hope its not too late by the time i get it :( i think i might be making it worse with having to force tube feed them, they hate it and i think it may be making them more stressed but they arnt getting enough from eating bird seed on their own

Are you tube feeding, or giving them the peas and corn? They don't generally mind the peas and corn, and it's very easy to do. Usually, after a few times, they'll start to eat it on their own. Also, if there is canker in the throat, you could dislodge it with a tube. Do the peas and corn. Put it way in their mouth, to the back of the throat, and push it a bit. They will swallow it.
Let us know how it goes.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:38 pm

Teamwork at it's best. Thanks Charis and Nite Owl. Great job

Yes, please do keep us posted AnnMarie.
If you need any :Need some help over the weekend, please do post. One of us is always checking the site.

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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:16 pm

im tube feeding them because im out of peas and corn :| no more funds to get some had to pay back friend for lending me money for the seeds... good news though :arrow: oreos black greenish tar-like stool is a little more brown and wet, i wonder why? seems like its like that after i started him on formula again confused but he still has that weird hard lump in his crop :( and he his absolutely hating the tube feeding even more then before and he seems always poofed up
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:01 pm

Does the hard lump feel like a bunch of seed stuck in there? Is it the whole crop, or just a small part?
Are they drinking well on their own?
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:34 pm

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im tube feeding them because im out of peas and corn :| no more funds to get some had to pay back friend for lending me money for the seeds... good news though :arrow: oreos black greenish tar-like stool is a little more brown and wet, i wonder why? seems like its like that after i started him on formula again confused but he still has that weird hard lump in his crop :( and he his absolutely hating the tube feeding even more then before and he seems always poofed up
That's probably why. I'm sure he wasn't eating enough.

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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:21 am

Don brought the envelope of meds to the Post Office to mail this morning. He was able to pay a little extra and have it there tomorrow, (Sunday). I didn't know they did that. So those babies should have their medicine very soon. So Annmarie, be sure and watch for a delivery on Sunday. I didn't know they would do that. Jumpin for joy Jumpin for joy
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:10 am

yup yup thank u alot ^-^ and it might be the small sunflower seeds all stuck together but i havnt givin him any more since 2 days ago and its still there. ( i was told that it was ok for them to eat it since it came with the seed.)
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:11 pm

zomg fishies wrote:
yup yup thank u alot ^-^ and it might be the small sunflower seeds all stuck together but i havnt givin him any more since 2 days ago and its still there. ( i was told that it was ok for them to eat it since it came with the seed.)
Were they with or without the shell?

The reason I ask, is because in the dove mix I buy there are sometimes a few small sunflower seeds in the shell that I think get in the mix by mistake.

I always remove them.

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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:52 pm

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zomg fishies wrote:
yup yup thank u alot ^-^ and it might be the small sunflower seeds all stuck together but i havnt givin him any more since 2 days ago and its still there. ( i was told that it was ok for them to eat it since it came with the seed.)
Were they with or without the shell?

The reason I ask, is because in the dove mix I buy there are sometimes a few small sunflower seeds in the shell that I think get in the mix by mistake.

I always remove them.

I remove them too. When one of my babies started to pick up seed on his own, he overdid it. It was like a hard ball in his little crop. Scared the hell out of me. That can go bad in there. It can't just sit in there like that for days.
Anyway, what I did was to feed him formula, mixed with a bit of applesauce, and then very gently mixed it up by GENTLY messaging the crop. It all mixed together, and passed through by the next day. After that, I was careful how much seed he ate all at one time until he got a little bit older.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:47 am

i have the medicine! so i give them one whole tablet of spartix each? and then dont feed or water them for 2 hours? it came at 9:50 this morning i was surprised :P
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:58 am

zomg fishies wrote:

* i have the medicine!

** so i give them one whole tablet of spartix each?

*** and then dont feed or water them for 2 hours?
* That's great.

** Yes.

*** I've never removed the food or water. confused

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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:07 am

AnnMarie,
If you feel more comfortable, you can break the tablet in half and give them each a half tablet at a time, rather than the whole tablet at once.

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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:27 pm

Yes. Give them the whole tablet of Spartrix each. Hold the food and water for 2 hours. If the med makes anyone sick, then feed them after the pill, but hold the water for the 2 hours. Sorry, I worked today and just got in. I have to go back out to work for a couple of hours. Be back in around 7 ish. Please let us know how it goes. If you have any trouble getting the pill in, let us know.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:18 am

AnnMarie, how is it oing with YOUR canker babies?
Mine seem to do well now with the Spartrix pills. One has totally cleared and the other one has still a small nodule.
I really hope that it goes that well with your little ones as it did with mine. Circle of Love
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:19 am

its going really good! im seeing results after the second pill was taken yesterday! thanks alot everybody and juss wanna say that i wont be on for a wile my computer needs to be fixed darn computers!
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:25 am

Thanks for the up date.
Good luck with getting the computer fixed. Maybe you need to dwonload some updates for your operating system or delete all the cookies...
Call if you need help and take care of your dear self. Star quality
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:29 am

I'm glad it's going well. Please update us when your computer is fixed. Hope all goes well.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh no my baby has a canker??   Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:48 pm

Happy to hear things are going well with the babies.

Sorry to hear you're having computer problems. Disappointed
I hope you're able to get things up and running again SOON.

Yes! Please do post an update when you are able.

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