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Cynthia
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Cynthia
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Join date: 2009-01-17
Location: England
|  Subject: Re: Sick Pigeons Please help  Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:52 am | |
| I have pondered on the poison question and sadly concluded that Plamen could be right, that there is a possibility that the pigeons might be direct or accidental victims of poisoning.
There is an element in our society that would not be influenced by logic, law, penalties or compassion...they are the kind of people that stone emergency service vehicles and personnel when they are on call, so would be very likely to poison woodies on the basis that they are pigeons, whether or not they had cause to object to them. Their choice of poison is most likely to be a rodenticide, as these are so easily available. Pigeons also forage around farms where rodenticides are used.
The most common form of rodenticides are anticoagulants. Animals poisoned this way don't show symptoms until many hours after ingestion, it takes a couple of days to kill them. I have found rats dying in my garden with no external signs of illness, but the source of their affliction is visible to me in a neighbour's garden. 
The primary antidote for this type of poisoning is Vitamin K.
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Matilda
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Location: Pacific Northwest of the United States of America
| | Subject: Re: Sick Pigeons Please help Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:28 am | |
| That's very frightening, Cynthia.
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Charis
Take joy in every creature,
embrace them
as brother and sister.
DO NO HARM
Member, International Wildlife Rehabilitation Council
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plamenh
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Join date: 2009-09-10
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
| | Subject: Re: Sick Pigeons Please help Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:46 am | |
| Anticoagulant rodenticides are poisons used to kill rats. Rodenticide means rodent killer. An anticoagulant is a blood thinner. Symptoms- Blood in the poop
Bruising and bleeding under the skin
Confusion, lethargy, or altered mental status from bleeding in the brain
Low blood pressure
Nosebleed
Shock
Vomiting blood
Actions to be taken:- Emptying crop - milking crop
Activated charcoal - with water in the crop or in tablet form
Vitamin K – Vitamin K is absolutely necessary after rodent bait ingestion. Vitamin K will restore the bloods ability to clot. Many times an injection is given first then followed up with capsules to give at home, this is usually needed for several weeks.
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Matilda
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Location: Pacific Northwest of the United States of America
| | Subject: Re: Sick Pigeons Please help Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:07 am | |
| Great post, plamenh. 
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Charis
Take joy in every creature,
embrace them
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DO NO HARM
Member, International Wildlife Rehabilitation Council
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Fancyfeathers
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Join date: 2009-01-11
Location: Southwestern United States
| | Subject: Re: Sick Pigeons Please help Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:42 pm | |
| First and foremost: I am not condoning the killing of any being, rather find it interesting a product used to kill rodents is also used to save many human lives. Coumadin (Warafrin) is a popular anticoagulant used by many people. It is also used as rat poison. This is an interesting piece on how it came to be. The story of Coumadin
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A Pigeon's Prayer
Please watch over us while we fly,
keeping us safe from the predators that share the sky.
If we become ill or injured in any way,
Please lead us to safety where we are welcome to stay.
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Matilda
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| | Subject: Re: Sick Pigeons Please help Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:47 pm | |
| Fascinating article, Cindy. Thanks for finding it and posting it. 
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Charis
Take joy in every creature,
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DO NO HARM
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But I fear that is going to happen to me more and more often. 
