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plamenh Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 881 Join date : 2009-09-10 Location : Johannesburg, South Africa
| Subject: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:02 pm | |
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pigeonwriter Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 1374 Join date : 2009-07-25 Location : Munich/Germany
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:12 pm | |
| They are very sweet Plamenh - I have never seen one in reality. They are tiny - half the size of a normal pigeon? | |
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plamenh Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 881 Join date : 2009-09-10 Location : Johannesburg, South Africa
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:34 pm | |
| They are smaller than Collared doves, bit bigger than sparrow, I would say 1/4 of the pigeon. Their weight is 90~120 grams. | |
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Naunnie
Posts : 41 Join date : 2009-10-07 Age : 64 Location : Buchanan, Georgia
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:47 pm | |
| They are beautiful birds Plamenh! Thanks for the pictures. Can I use one on the front of their album cover? Seriously, I'm glad to see what a Senegal dove looks like. | |
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plamenh Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 881 Join date : 2009-09-10 Location : Johannesburg, South Africa
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:22 pm | |
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jamy Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 388 Join date : 2009-07-10 Age : 74 Location : West Midlands UK.
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:51 pm | |
| They are very pretty. I love the way they are cuddled up close. Are these two a pair or do they huddle up like that 'cos they're shy? Janet | |
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AZWhitefeather Owner/Administrator
Posts : 10863 Join date : 2009-01-11 Location : Arizona Southwestern United States
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:01 pm | |
| Great pictures, plamenh. They sure are pretty little doves and the pigeon is quite striking. Many for shring them with us. | |
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Capuccino
Posts : 452 Join date : 2009-01-18 Location : Southern England
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:19 pm | |
| Are they nervous and flighty like Collared Doves?
CDs can sometimes be a nightmare if just one is spooked by a human | |
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Teresa Administrative Member
Posts : 5381 Join date : 2009-07-23 Location : Portugal
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:00 pm | |
| I didn't know Senegal doves were even smaller than collared doves. They're so pretty! Thanks for posting the photos. | |
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plamenh Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 881 Join date : 2009-09-10 Location : Johannesburg, South Africa
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:27 pm | |
| Senegals are very flighty birds. They do not like sudden movements and if you try to approach them they run. Even baby Senegal dove is good flyer. On the other side they are really cheeky birds. They will knock on the window if you are late with feeding, while pigeons wait patiently. They will land on the back of the pigeon in the melee for food and get the seed under his beak. They will take opportunity to get in the loft the moment you leave door open (in ten and hundreds) not one or two. As pigeons they mate for life. Unlike pigeons they do not leave youngsters once out of the nest. In the beginning I was thinking that young baby is abandoned because is sitting on one place, not moving. I was trying to catch them (babies) and help them. Usually they will fly away. Five minutes later it would come back on the same spot. Then I saw that parents come to feed it. Once there was a big storm and I saw baby dove sitting drenched on the rain. I took it in, warmed it and fed. Next morning when I was preparing to feed it, baby managed to escape through open window and it went to the very same spot in the garden where it was previous day. Minute later adult dove came to feed it. These two on the picture are PMV survivors. They cannot fly and as I have them for more then a year, they are tame. Both are females as their egg production is really high. Once they managed 6 eggs in a week. On one occasion I managed somehow to leave cage door open (I can swear I closed it) while I was cleaning. Cage was outside in the garden and they escaped. I found them minutes later gorging on young broccoli leafs in the veggie spot. They didn’t try to escape from me or anything just hanging on their leafs like little bulldogs, with innocent faces, while I was carrying them back to the cage. (that’s why I call them The Bandits). | |
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Matilda Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 9198 Join date : 2009-01-11 Location : Pacific Northwest of the United States of America
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:35 pm | |
| Sounds like your feral flock keeps you busy. That's interesting about the Doves.
The two in the picture sould like 2 more little characters. | |
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AZWhitefeather Owner/Administrator
Posts : 10863 Join date : 2009-01-11 Location : Arizona Southwestern United States
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:55 pm | |
| That is very interesting about the doves. plamenh. | |
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plamenh Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 881 Join date : 2009-09-10 Location : Johannesburg, South Africa
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:30 am | |
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AZWhitefeather Owner/Administrator
Posts : 10863 Join date : 2009-01-11 Location : Arizona Southwestern United States
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plamenh Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 881 Join date : 2009-09-10 Location : Johannesburg, South Africa
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Matilda Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 9198 Join date : 2009-01-11 Location : Pacific Northwest of the United States of America
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:34 am | |
| Nice looking eggs. Did they all come form those little Doves? Do they seem to notice that you have replaced them with wooden ones? | |
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plamenh Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 881 Join date : 2009-09-10 Location : Johannesburg, South Africa
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:47 am | |
| Strange thing is that these two produce more than 4 eggs together. They are hens both and eggs are not fertile. They lay them and do not sit on them at all. | |
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Matilda Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 9198 Join date : 2009-01-11 Location : Pacific Northwest of the United States of America
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:51 am | |
| That's unusual. How often do they lay? | |
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plamenh Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 881 Join date : 2009-09-10 Location : Johannesburg, South Africa
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:03 am | |
| Every second week. I have them for a while and there was no eggs for long time. Since I mated another pair of Senegals and cock is cooing like mad these two started laying. Other pair produces 2 eggs every third to fourth week. They sit on the dummies and act normally. | |
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Matilda Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 9198 Join date : 2009-01-11 Location : Pacific Northwest of the United States of America
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:17 am | |
| Am I remembering correctly that these 2 are PMV survivors? | |
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Matilda Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 9198 Join date : 2009-01-11 Location : Pacific Northwest of the United States of America
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:17 am | |
| Do they lay thier eggs in a nest? | |
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plamenh Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 881 Join date : 2009-09-10 Location : Johannesburg, South Africa
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:25 am | |
| Not allways in the nest. 2 of the eggs were in the nest, 3 on the side. I have impression that they lay at the same time. Maybe they need second nest in the cage. | |
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Matilda Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 9198 Join date : 2009-01-11 Location : Pacific Northwest of the United States of America
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:28 am | |
| What I'm wondering is if there is any correlation between the excessive egg laying , lack of interest in laying and PMV ? | |
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plamenh Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 881 Join date : 2009-09-10 Location : Johannesburg, South Africa
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:44 am | |
| It may be. In every other aspect, they act normally, they preen each other, snuggle together, they even pretend to sit on the eggs, but away from eggs. Who knows PMV affects nervous system so one cannot know what goes in their heads. My other PMV hens sit on the eggs normally. I have another pair of Senegal doves who are too young to produce eggs so I’ll check their behavior once they start. They are PMV survivors too. | |
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Matilda Special Pigeon Angel
Posts : 9198 Join date : 2009-01-11 Location : Pacific Northwest of the United States of America
| Subject: Re: Senegal doves (PMV Paramixo Virus discussion) Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:56 am | |
| Tell me this, plamenh...are there symptoms you associate with PMV besides the neurological symptoms? | |
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