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PostSubject: Emaciation   Emaciation Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2010 10:45 am

Second rescued pigeon this season I am treating who, despite a lotta food intake and meds - is just not gaining weight back. This can be another thread about trying to suss out what illness he may have...but after wormers and antibiotics....I am just wondering.

My avian vet once told me, in passing, that birds can become emaciated to a point where they actually just cannot return to a healthy or sustaining weight.

Thoughts ...comments ?
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PostSubject: Re: Emaciation   Emaciation Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2010 11:12 am

Jaye wrote:
Second rescued pigeon this season I am treating who, despite a lotta food intake and meds - is just not gaining weight back. This can be another thread about trying to suss out what illness he may have...but after wormers and antibiotics....I am just wondering.

My avian vet once told me, in passing, that birds can become emaciated to a point where they actually just cannot return to a healthy or sustaining weight.

Thoughts ...comments ?

I do agree to a point. Once I had a Pigeon came to me that had been trapped behind some debree for at least several days. When found, he was very dehydrated...so much so that he looked squished. he was given fluids SQ and he did come around...ate, acted OK and seemed to enjoy his life. he lived another 5 years but never put on weight...his keel bone was always prominent. His life was cut short by a hawk.
and then there is my Sun Conure...
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PostSubject: Re: Emaciation   Emaciation Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2010 6:58 pm

The one bird I've had that could not put on weight finally did so quite a long time after being treated for coccidia. He had been treated for other things prior. I made sure he had lots of extra sunflower seeds and peanuts. It did take a long time though.
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PostSubject: Re: Emaciation   Emaciation Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2010 7:41 pm

What are some recommended foods to try to get some weight on ? I have been using parrot pellets, corn/peas slathered in Nutri-Stat, and safflower seeds. Up until these last 2 pigeons, they had always worked like a charm.

Unfortunately - my latest patient doesn't recognize safflower as food......
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PostSubject: Re: Emaciation   Emaciation Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2010 7:47 pm

Raw chopped peanuts, shelled raw sunflower seeds, dried peas, dried lentil, uncooked organic brown rice [small amounts]...

Do you have Pigeon seed mix available down there?...with..17% or higher protein content would be good.
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PostSubject: Re: Emaciation   Emaciation Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2010 7:57 pm

Matilda wrote:

Raw chopped peanuts, shelled raw sunflower seeds, dried peas, dried lentil, uncooked organic brown rice [small amounts]...

Do you have Pigeon seed mix available down there?...with..17% or higher protein content would be good.

Barley would be something you could add to that mix.
Sending positive thoughts that all goes well with the little rescue. Circle of Love


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PostSubject: Re: Emaciation   Emaciation Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2010 7:58 pm

Good idea, Cindy.
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PostSubject: Re: Emaciation   Emaciation Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2010 8:00 pm

Somehow I screwed up my post. Emaciation 310554
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PostSubject: Re: Emaciation   Emaciation Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2010 8:03 pm

There we go! That's better. :That\\\'s so f
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PostSubject: Re: Emaciation   Emaciation Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2010 8:18 pm

Looked fine to me, Cindy. Right on
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PostSubject: Re: Emaciation   Emaciation Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2010 8:23 pm

Matilda wrote:
Looked fine to me, Cindy. Right on

I had your quote all messed up. It would have driven me crazy to leave it like that. Serious EEK!!
So had to go back quickly and correct it. Emaciation 193770 Emaciation 193770 :That\\\'s so f
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PostSubject: Re: Emaciation   Emaciation Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2010 10:56 pm

Jaye, I think the vet said that because illness causes dehydration and malnourishment, which in turn cause more disease or aggravate the existing one.
But fortunately this is not always the case. If your bird is in good health, a diet such as was suggested above will not fail to help him/her gain weight, even if it takes some time. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Emaciation   Emaciation Icon_minitimeSun Mar 14, 2010 12:41 pm

Feeding baby cereal like milk pudding with fruit with a relatively high fat percentage. Easy to digest and gives lots of calories. Has worked on all my pijjies! But it is important to rather start with smaller quantities like 10 ml at one meal - up to 5 times a day. When they get used to it I fed 3 x 20 ml for a couple of days. Don't worry that the poop is getting a bit loose - it will firm up again with peas etc.
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