Pigeon Angels
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Pigeon Angels


 
RegisterSearchLatest imagesHomeLog in
At this time Pigeon Angels forum is in an archive status. For assistance please log into Pigeon Angels Facebook by clicking the following link. Thank You https://www.facebook.com/groups/176239232007/?hc_location=stream

 

 No rest for the wicked

Go down 
+14
Jackie\'s Mom
priya
EgypSwiftLady
jamy
Capuccino
plamenh
AZJourney
Dolly
Jenaka
Cynthia
Matilda
pigeonwriter
AZWhitefeather
Teresa
18 posters
Go to page : Previous  1 ... 17 ... 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36  Next
AuthorMessage
AZWhitefeather
Owner/Administrator
AZWhitefeather


Posts : 10863
Join date : 2009-01-11
Location : Arizona Southwestern United States

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeSun Oct 31, 2010 8:13 am

Holy Cow What a time you've had, Teresa. No rest for the wicked - Page 32 310554

I am so sorry to hear that Lawrence and Kali haven't been feeling well. Not feeling well
Sure glad things have calmed down, not only for their sake but for yours as well. Universal hug

I'm really looking forward to seeing your 'special' Halloween picture!! No rest for the wicked - Page 32 714583

Back to top Go down
http://www.pigeonangels.com
EgypSwiftLady
Special Pigeon Angel
EgypSwiftLady


Posts : 1526
Join date : 2009-10-23
Location : Wisconsin

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeSun Oct 31, 2010 9:36 am


Poor you, Teresa! Oh no It's not bad enough that Kali was sick but the weather sounds just horrible!

When the weather is bad it just makes everything so much worse!

I too am glad life is looking up. Feeling great Feeling great
Back to top Go down
http://www.ironwolffarmsanctuary.com
Teresa
Administrative Member
Teresa


Posts : 5381
Join date : 2009-07-23
Location : Portugal

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeSun Oct 31, 2010 6:08 pm

Today was still adventurous enough, because, as a result of the storms, there was a blackout in our part of town that lasted for hours. The repair crew only got a move on when we threatened to sue for compensation if the freezer contents thawed.
So, with no power, it was back to hot water bottles for Ana, but her nest is all toasty now! No rest for the wicked - Page 32 142829

It's at a time like this that I realise how spoiled my cats and dog are, that it never occurs to them to get out of the way for a human... cooking dinner by candlelight, I had to turn them out of the kitchen so as not to trip on them! nutter
My mother thought I was being paranoid when I hedged my bets between electricity, gas and solid fuel, but my paranoia meant that at least we had hot water and means of cooking even with the power down. All I need now are infrared glasses to spot the blooming cats in the dark! ROTFL
Back to top Go down
Matilda
Special Pigeon Angel
Matilda


Posts : 9198
Join date : 2009-01-11
Location : Pacific Northwest of the United States of America

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeSun Oct 31, 2010 6:56 pm

Maybe Santa will put those glasses in your Christmas stocking. That's too funny
Back to top Go down
Teresa
Administrative Member
Teresa


Posts : 5381
Join date : 2009-07-23
Location : Portugal

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeSun Oct 31, 2010 7:04 pm

Matilda wrote:
Maybe Santa will put those glasses in your Christmas stocking. That's too funny

ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL But he can leave them on the doorstep -- I don't need reindeer poop in the house, too! Serious EEK!!
Back to top Go down
AZWhitefeather
Owner/Administrator
AZWhitefeather


Posts : 10863
Join date : 2009-01-11
Location : Arizona Southwestern United States

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeSun Oct 31, 2010 10:17 pm

Teresa wrote:
Matilda wrote:
Maybe Santa will put those glasses in your Christmas stocking. That's too funny

ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL But he can leave them on the doorstep -- I don't need reindeer poop in the house, too! Serious EEK!!

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 321758 No rest for the wicked - Page 32 321758 ROTFL No rest for the wicked - Page 32 321758 No rest for the wicked - Page 32 321758
Back to top Go down
http://www.pigeonangels.com
Matilda
Special Pigeon Angel
Matilda


Posts : 9198
Join date : 2009-01-11
Location : Pacific Northwest of the United States of America

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeMon Nov 01, 2010 9:23 am

Teresa wrote:
Matilda wrote:
Maybe Santa will put those glasses in your Christmas stocking. That's too funny

ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL But he can leave them on the doorstep -- I don't need reindeer poop in the house, too! Serious EEK!!

Silly...it's only Santa that comes down the chimney. Leave a not on the roof for him to remove his shoes first. Laughing
Back to top Go down
Teresa
Administrative Member
Teresa


Posts : 5381
Join date : 2009-07-23
Location : Portugal

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 02, 2010 6:47 pm

Matilda wrote:
Teresa wrote:
Matilda wrote:
Maybe Santa will put those glasses in your Christmas stocking. That's too funny

ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL But he can leave them on the doorstep -- I don't need reindeer poop in the house, too! Serious EEK!!

Silly...it's only Santa that comes down the chimney. Leave a not on the roof for him to remove his shoes first. Laughing

Laughing Laughing Laughing Then Santa and all my presents will end up like grated carrots... my chimney has netting round the top to prevent birds from falling in!

PS. Shoes are fine. In fact, they're recommended... Ask Soni about it, she stepped on the catsick in her socks...
Back to top Go down
Teresa
Administrative Member
Teresa


Posts : 5381
Join date : 2009-07-23
Location : Portugal

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 02, 2010 7:03 pm

Little Ana is doing very well. The urates are back to white and she's feeding herself. She's finished her course of meds, and when she's put on a little more weight I'll stop providing constant heat in preparation for release.

I'm still not too happy with Hercules' poops. Still too soft. He's had another course of Flagyl, but no difference. Otherwise he looks healthy, and his weight is normal. Piper has no symptoms, in spite of their intimacy. I have NO idea

The others are doing well, almost over the moult and looking good, especially Abby whose perfectly feathered head is a joy to see after her nasty head injury.
And George has finally started to exercise his bad wing! Great job The vet was right, it takes much longer to get over neurological damage than a break.

The cats seem okay now. Fingers crossed
Back to top Go down
AZWhitefeather
Owner/Administrator
AZWhitefeather


Posts : 10863
Join date : 2009-01-11
Location : Arizona Southwestern United States

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 02, 2010 10:57 pm

Teresa wrote:
Matilda wrote:

Silly...it's only Santa that comes down the chimney. Leave a not on the roof for him to remove his shoes first. Laughing

Laughing Laughing Laughing * Then Santa and all my presents will end up like grated carrots... my chimney has netting round the top to prevent birds from falling in!

PS. Shoes are fine. In fact, they're recommended... Ask Soni about it, she stepped on the catsick in her socks...

* No rest for the wicked - Page 32 46723
Great job On you keeping the birds safe.
Back to top Go down
http://www.pigeonangels.com
AZWhitefeather
Owner/Administrator
AZWhitefeather


Posts : 10863
Join date : 2009-01-11
Location : Arizona Southwestern United States

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 02, 2010 11:02 pm

Glad to hear everyone is doing well, Teresa. No rest for the wicked - Page 32 142829

Back to top Go down
http://www.pigeonangels.com
EgypSwiftLady
Special Pigeon Angel
EgypSwiftLady


Posts : 1526
Join date : 2009-10-23
Location : Wisconsin

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 03, 2010 8:45 am

YESS!! Thrilled Good news Teresa!

I hope Hercules will improve after this next round of Flagyl. No rest for the wicked - Page 32 395766
Back to top Go down
http://www.ironwolffarmsanctuary.com
pigeonwriter
Special Pigeon Angel
pigeonwriter


Posts : 1374
Join date : 2009-07-25
Location : Munich/Germany

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 03, 2010 11:20 am

Teresa wrote:

I'm still not too happy with Hercules' poops. Still too soft. He's had another course of Flagyl, but no difference. Otherwise he looks healthy, and his weight is normal. Piper has no symptoms, in spite of their intimacy. I have NO idea

Oh my Teresa, you seem to have a busy time - somehow this reminds of times I rather try to forget... Fingers crossed

Regarding soft poop - I had this problem with Pina for so such a long time that I thought she would never get back to normal again. Even with regularly giving her probiotic joghurt her poop would remain soft. Then I ordered Bird Bene Bac or Bene Bac which is a gel, containing concentrated live culture of seven common bacteria found in the intestinal tracts of birds and reptiles. Bird Bene-Bac gel guarantees 10 million colony forming units (CFU) per gram of viable lactic acid producing bacteria. Bird Bene-Bac provides help for birds and reptiles under adverse conditions such as showing, weaning, worming, surgery, traveling, boarding, breeding, antibiotic therapy or simple intestinal stress.

here is a link: http://www.petag.com/products_items.asp?SubcategoryID=18&CategoryID=1

I have given this stuff to her every 2 days for about 2 weeks (I used Bene Bac because that was cheaper and only took half of the recommended quantity because it contained twice as much colonies as Bird Bene Bac) - and the miracle happened - her poops firmed up to normal after a time of more than 9 months...

Back to top Go down
http://www.vyala-arts.com
Teresa
Administrative Member
Teresa


Posts : 5381
Join date : 2009-07-23
Location : Portugal

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 04, 2010 3:16 pm

Bad, bad news! Ana died an hour ago... Very sad Very sad Very sad

Yesterday she was fine, feeding herself from two bowls, one with thawed peas and corn, the other with small seeds. Her weight had just passed the 200 g mark. She had finished a full week's course of antibiotic+Flagyl, she was active and curious and I thought the danger was over. But I still kept the heater on for her 24/7.
This morning she didn't look at all well. She was sleepy-looking, her breathing was shallow, her poops had a watery rim and undigested food particles, and one or two poops had a reddish-brown colour and mucousy appearance, as if they had dried blood. So I switched to tube-feeding her 15 ml of formula per meal and restarted the antibiotic. Six hours ago she was much better. Then, an hour ago, while I was teaching, I heard a couple of wingbeats, ran to check on her, and she'd breathed her last. I didn't say anything to the student, just pulled the heater away from the cage and carried on working as best I could.

This is so like what happened with Xi-ri, the baby canary, and it's really heartbreaking. I keep going over everything and can't find anything to match her symptoms. Don't know whether to try for a necropsy, as it's frustrating not to have any of the pathogens identified -- the two I ordered before mentioned nodules and rounded foreign bodies, but didn't identify them, even after doing the cultures, so no chance to get disease-specific meds.
Back to top Go down
Matilda
Special Pigeon Angel
Matilda


Posts : 9198
Join date : 2009-01-11
Location : Pacific Northwest of the United States of America

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 04, 2010 3:25 pm

I'm so sorry. This is heart breaking news.
Very sad
Undigested seed can be a symptom of coccidia and giardia as well.
Back to top Go down
pigeonwriter
Special Pigeon Angel
pigeonwriter


Posts : 1374
Join date : 2009-07-25
Location : Munich/Germany

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 04, 2010 3:35 pm

Oh no Teresa, this is truly breaking my heart. I cannot believe this happening again after it looked so promising. Very sad Very sad Very sad I do not understand what is going on there. This is so extremely sad. What kind of hellish sickness do these little angels catch? I really don't understand. And I can hardly believe how you cope with this new tragedy. I am very sad Very sad Very sad Very sad Very sad
Back to top Go down
http://www.vyala-arts.com
Matilda
Special Pigeon Angel
Matilda


Posts : 9198
Join date : 2009-01-11
Location : Pacific Northwest of the United States of America

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 04, 2010 4:39 pm

Teresa...I just looked up the cuae of undigested seed in droppings and found other possibilites which include, tape worm, round worm and E-Coli.
Back to top Go down
Teresa
Administrative Member
Teresa


Posts : 5381
Join date : 2009-07-23
Location : Portugal

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 04, 2010 5:31 pm

Thank you, Charis and Petra.

Charis, I was going to give her cocci meds and worm her soon, just wanted her to have a little break after the other meds as she was still quite underweight. I hope it wasn't the wait that condemned her... Very sad
I think we can discount E-coli in this case, as the antibiotic would have cleared it. And I found another source associating undigested food with salmonella. Too many questions...
Back to top Go down
EgypSwiftLady
Special Pigeon Angel
EgypSwiftLady


Posts : 1526
Join date : 2009-10-23
Location : Wisconsin

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 04, 2010 5:32 pm

Teresa I am so very sorry to read that Ana Has joined the angels. Very sad Very sad

We have had necropsies done on different species throughout the years, sometimes we are lucky and the problem was solved but many times on the exotics it was an unidentifiable
orginism that was the problem. Disappointed
Hearing that news is so very frustrating! Not knowing always brings sleepless nights.
Back to top Go down
http://www.ironwolffarmsanctuary.com
Teresa
Administrative Member
Teresa


Posts : 5381
Join date : 2009-07-23
Location : Portugal

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 04, 2010 5:51 pm

I think the culprit was our old enemy, canker, plus opportunistic bacterial infection, plus ?cocci?

I've just been cleaning up her cage, and discovered a number of things: first that she'd vomited her last feed, between the far side of her nest and the back of the cage, and that her last 2 poops smelt sour and the urates were back to yellow. It all seems sadly familiar.

I got a photo of her last 2 poops -- the smaller one I saw her do after her last feed; the large one is the last, still with seed from yesterday, and definitely with blood.

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 DSCNB7530-r400
Back to top Go down
Matilda
Special Pigeon Angel
Matilda


Posts : 9198
Join date : 2009-01-11
Location : Pacific Northwest of the United States of America

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 04, 2010 6:11 pm

It seems it's never just one thing making them ill, especially when they are young.

Very sad
Back to top Go down
NiteOwl
Special Pigeon Angel
NiteOwl


Posts : 2194
Join date : 2009-01-19
Location : Southern New England

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 04, 2010 8:46 pm

I'm sorry you lost her Teresa.
Back to top Go down
AZWhitefeather
Owner/Administrator
AZWhitefeather


Posts : 10863
Join date : 2009-01-11
Location : Arizona Southwestern United States

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeFri Nov 05, 2010 2:12 pm

I am so very sorry to hear about Ana, Teresa. Very sad
I can't even imagine being in the situation you were in and still being able to conduct a class.
I know that must have been one of the most heart wrenching moments ever.
Bless your heart. No rest for the wicked - Page 32 983488 Universal hug No rest for the wicked - Page 32 983488



Sweet Ana
May you forever fly high and fly free


pigeon 1 No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Angel_20 pigeon 1
Back to top Go down
http://www.pigeonangels.com
Teresa
Administrative Member
Teresa


Posts : 5381
Join date : 2009-07-23
Location : Portugal

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeFri Nov 05, 2010 9:39 pm

Thank you all for your kind words.
Cindy, thank you so much for the lovely tribute to Ana. It's so moving!

Fly free, little Ana! pigeon 1
Back to top Go down
AZWhitefeather
Owner/Administrator
AZWhitefeather


Posts : 10863
Join date : 2009-01-11
Location : Arizona Southwestern United States

No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitimeFri Nov 05, 2010 10:33 pm

Teresa wrote:
Thank you all for your kind words.
Cindy, thank you so much for the lovely tribute to Ana. It's so moving!

Fly free, little Ana! pigeon 1

You're very welcome. Circle of Love
Back to top Go down
http://www.pigeonangels.com
Sponsored content





No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Empty
PostSubject: Re: No rest for the wicked   No rest for the wicked - Page 32 Icon_minitime

Back to top Go down
 
No rest for the wicked
Back to top 
Page 32 of 36Go to page : Previous  1 ... 17 ... 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36  Next
 Similar topics
-
» no rest for another wicked - a last goodbye to little Tinchen
» Rest in peace Oreo

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Pigeon Angels :: Emergency Room :: Pigeon and Dove Illness and Injury Discussion forum-
Jump to: