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Oh my goodness! Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 Icon_cry Bless Hercules' little birdie heart.
Has the vet said when the pins would be removed?

Bless you as well Teresa. The stress and worry must be overwhelming at times.
I hope the rest of the healing process goes without any problems.

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He's still got a dressing, which is to be changed every 2 days (I took the photo at changing time today). I'm to take him back this Saturday to see if the dressing can come off, and a week later he's to have another X-ray to see if the bone is mending. Only when the bone has knitted can the pins be taken out. Still a way off, poor Hercules! He looks so uncomfortable! Not feeling well

Plamenh, just read your message. Great info, thank you so much! I'll look for it tomorrow.
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plamenh wrote:
If you can find red palm oil and mix it with his seeds that may help his recovery and vitamin deficiency without interfering with antibiotics. It has high content keratin and vitamins E and D, much higher than carrots and other vegies. I use it when birds are long time on AB’s and for slow growing babies.

How much do you use, plamenh?
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Teresa wrote:
Fancyfeathers wrote:
Oh my goodness! Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 Icon_cry Bless Hercules' little birdie heart.
Has the vet said when the pins would be removed?

Bless you as well Teresa. The stress and worry must be overwhelming at times.
I hope the rest of the healing process goes without any problems.

Sending you both a BIGHorrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 6049.

He's still got a dressing, which is to be changed every 2 days (I took the photo at changing time today). I'm to take him back this Saturday to see if the dressing can come off, and a week later he's to have another X-ray to see if the bone is mending. Only when the bone has knitted can the pins be taken out. Still a way off, poor Hercules!
* He looks so uncomfortable
! Not feeling well

Plamenh, just read your message. Great info, thank you so much! I'll look for it tomorrow.
Thank You

I sure hope the vet visits are on a positive note. Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 458406

* No doubt he is uncomfortable. Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 Icon_cry
I always look at the eyes, as they tell a lot. Hercules' eyes look pretty perky actually.
I'm sure the excellent care and TLC he's being given helps to compensate for the uncomfortableness of it all. Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 789920
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Aproximately 1 teaspoon to kg of seeds.
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plamenh wrote:
Aproximately 1 teaspoon to kg of seeds.

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Teresa...how is Hercules doing tonight?
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Teresa, wishing you and Hercules all the best. It is just incredible through what you are going right now too. This little pigeon is truly a hero, not giving up and trying his best to get healthy again. All that sorrow and worry must have a happy end. Oh - I cannot express how much I feel with you Group hug Group hug Group hug
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He's hanging on in there, quite defensive, but not quite as vicious with me. I think he's generally calmed down being home, but every time I open the door you should see his pupils dilate! I think he's scared, but shows it through aggression.
The wattles are pinkier than grey now, but since the second operation he's occasionally sneezed, and earlier on today there was a slight whistle when he breathed out. I'd actually asked the vet about it, as I was concerned it might be infectious catarrh, but he waved it off with 'Let's treat first things first'.
I have NO idea

Charis, I just saw your message about Nystatin. I do have some in the house, just in case, but these antifungals are a bit scary and I'd hesitate to use them unless a fungal infection was confirmed. I'll ask the vet again on saturday. What do you think?
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Appreciate the update, Teresa.
I'm glad to hear Hercules is doing as good as can be expected.
He has been through a lot and is such a little trooper. Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 848164
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He's so much better!

His leg is looking great -- no sign of infection and not a single blood spot for 4 days now, so the dressing came out today. He's much more comfortable without the bulky thing.
His appetite is very good and he's very feisty, but less violent. He's also in fine voice! Tickled Pink And, wonder of wonders, while I was cleaning his foot I saw him move one of his toes!
Happy Dance Happy Dance Happy Dance Happy Dance Happy Dance Happy Dance

This photo was taken about an hour ago:

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OH TERESA....That is wonderful. I am just thrilled. Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 98152
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Another three cheers for Hercules. Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 359893 Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 359893 Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 359893
And a Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 766985 on moving his toe.

Wonderful update, Teresa.
It looks like his wattle is beginning to whiten up as well. Doesn't look as pink as it did.
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That's great news Teresa.

He looks so much better..............What a little trooper he is.

Thanks for the wonderful update.


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Another three cheers for Hercules. Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 359893 Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 359893 Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 359893
And a Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 766985 on moving his toe.

Wonderful update, Teresa.
It looks like his wattle is beginning to whiten up as well. Doesn't look as pink as it did.

I thought that as well! YESS!! (Don't tell the vet, but I interrupted his everlasting antibiotic regimen for 2 days so he could have a probiotic.)
I'm so thrilled with his progress! He never ceases to amaze me! Star quality
Thank you, Charis, Cindy and Louise for your ongoing support. I strongly feel that he's benefitting from all the positive thoughts from fellow cpp!
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"Hercules, my man, you just keep on keeping on with your recovery" Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 98152
Thank you for all the updates, Teresa. We so appreciate them. Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 Icon_wink
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Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 373410 Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 373410 Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 373410 Celebrate Happy Dance Thrilled Hip Hip Hooray Happy Dance Circle of Love
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Hercules today, alert and feisty:

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VERY feisty! Look what he does when you put your hand -- or the camera -- in his territory:

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Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 766985 Hercules is feisty!! That is such a good sign.
How is his leg coming along, Teresa? Has he tried to put any weight on it yet?
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Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 766985 Hercules is feisty!! That is such a good sign.
How is his leg coming along, Teresa? Has he tried to put any weight on it yet?

No, he hasn't, and that worries me, because it suggests that the bone hasn't set yet. But the whole construction is very bulky, pushing against his body, and I wonder whether he could hold the leg vertical at all. He's due for another X-ray very soon, so we'll know then. Fingers crossed!
On the plus side, the leg is a great colour, the feathers are growing back on it, and sensitivity has, at least in part, returned to his foot.
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The wing slaps are good. When is the X-ray, Teresa?
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Got the fingers crossed and positive thoughts in action.

Given the extent of the injury and the surgeries, I'm sure it's going to take a while for all the heal.
Having good circulation and sensitivity in his foot are great signs. Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 766985
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The wing slaps are good. When is the X-ray, Teresa?

Either tomorrow or Monday, depending on vet's availability. I'll phone them tomorrow morning to see what they say.
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Lawrence meets his match:

Lawrence just stuck his nose right up against the door of Hercules's basket, but before I could grab him to pull him away, Hercules wingslapped the door really hard and Lawrence jumped two feet back, licking the tip of his nose! ROTFL
That taught him!...
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Don't ya wish you had your camera ready for that shot?! Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 164371
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Oh my goodness, I can just imagine the surprise Lawrence got.
A couple times when Reese has been startled not only does he jump a couple feet back, he also jumps a couple feet straight up. Horrible fracture (Beware, GRAPHIC) -- what can I do? - Page 9 344674


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