Canker suspected

This is a little squeaker that found it's way to Kim's yard. She caught him on the 3rd.
I believe what initially caught her eye was his right eye looked to be 'stretched' and it does. Probably because there aren't any feathers around it.The left side is a mess.
She suspected canker and started him on Spartrix.

Bless his little birdie heart, he's eating, drinking and pooping like a trooper and has a wing slap like nobodys business.

Any other thoughts or suggestions?

She sent me the following photos to review and I agree with her suspicion.

Cindy

Cynthia. Your input is always appreciated.

Km's been extremely busy the past few months and just hasn't had the time to check in so I'll pass this along to her.

Cindy

I think sending Dr Walker a picture is a great idea. Do you happen to have his email address, Cynthia? would be a good one to have on hand.

This is Kim's reply to your post, Cynthia.

I have enroxil and I have been spraying his eye with collodial silver. Do I stop the canker med and start him on enroxil. I do have an anti-biotic eye oinment.

Matilda wrote:

I think sending Dr Walker a picture is a great idea. Do you happen to have his email address, Cynthia? would be a good one to have on hand.

I would be happy to send him the pictures.

If you could furnish his email address, that would be wonderful.

John is the one that has communicated with him most recently, so I will ask him to post it here and to start a thread in our resources section, there may be others that we want to add.

What has Kim been medicating the baby with for canker, and for how long? I would do the canker "sniff test" before making any decision on stopping medication . I have no knowledge of Enroxil and haven't found it in my formulary. I usually use synulox/clavamox or Baytril, like Kim I bathe the eye with colloidal silver and or tincture of euphrasia . The homeopathic medicine Euphrasia has worked very well for eye infections that don't respond to antibiotics.


Cynthia

This is the return address on Colin Walker's reply:

vet@auspigeonco.com.au

This is where the website said to send enquiries, which is where I wrote:

info@birdsrus.com.au


John

Thank you. I've added it to my addresses.

Matilda wrote:

Thank you. I've added it to my addresses.

Excellent! No stone shall be left unturned - nothing shall escape the watchful eyes of Matilda's List
:bounce:

I wonder if he would be our partener in Australia? Do you know how he feels about ferals?

Cynthia wrote:

John is the one that has communicated with him most recently, so I will ask him to post it here and to start a thread in our resources section, there may be others that we want to add.

* What has Kim been medicating the baby with for canker, and for how long?

** I would do the canker "sniff test" before making any decision on stopping medication .

I have no knowledge of Enroxil and haven't found it in my formulary. I usually use synulox/clavamox or Baytril, like Kim I bathe the eye with colloidal silver and or tincture of euphrasia . The homeopathic medicine Euphrasia has worked very well for eye infections that don't respond to antibiotics.

Cynthia

* Spartrix. She started it on Friday.

** She may have already done that, but I'm not sure.
I'll pass along this infor to her. Thanks again Cynthia.

Cindy

Capuccino wrote:

This is the return address on Colin Walker's reply:

vet@auspigeonco.com.au

This is where the website said to send enquiries, which is where I wrote:

info@birdsrus.com.au


John

Thanks, John.
I'll get these photos off to him.

Cindy

He's been on spartrix for 5 days. Should I go longer?
I sent Cindy some pictures I just took. I did have a picture of a dropping but after I cropped it on my computer it went somewhere. It did look good tho.
I have enroxil which I believe is equiv to baytryl.

Do you have anything else for canker?

flagyl

Perfect. What strength?

Hi Kim,

If you know the dose for Enroxil, please start the pigeon on that. Also wash his eye gently with warm water. I would soak a piece of cotton wool (I can't remember what you call it overe there) in warm water and hold it on the eye for a while like a compress.

Cynthia

Here is the photo Kim sent me last evening.
It seems as though something is going on with both eyes.
It looks like his entire eye has been displaced from the socket.

Well, there is certainly something building up the pressure behind the eye. This is one that I would take to the vet.

Cynthia

enroxil is 7.5 mg and I have sterile gauze I could use to soak the one eye. I can't afford to take him to the vet. What do you think a rehabber would do?

Kippy wrote:

enroxil is 7.5 mg and I have sterile gauze I could use to soak the one eye. I can't afford to take him to the vet.

What do you think a rehabber would do?

If there is pressure caused by swelling, Nancy could probably give him a shot of Dexamethasone to help relieve the swelling.

You know how Nancy and I get along. Last time I saw Nancy was with Tripp and his leg. She wanted to keep him so she will want to keep this one also. She won't just give him a shot and give him back.
How do I get him to Nancy?

At the least...it would help if you picked up a kitchen scale so that you can weight the bird.
You have enough sick birds coming to you that it would help if you we able to give you an absolutely appopriate dose.
With the very ill bird I had with canker, the canker had gotten into the sinus area and was so extensive that it had pushed the eyes forward into a bulge.
I think the suggestion to email the all pictures to Dr. Walker is a good thing to do right now.

How is the bird doing?